Who is purest Oghuz? Afro-Turks or Balkan Turks?

[archangel]

None of the groups I mentioned is Turkish speaking but they are regarded as Balkan Turks in Turkey. Taking Kaspias as reference for Turkish speakers(which is arbitrary enough and we need larger samples), how do we know that the "mongoloid" is originally Oghuz and not Avar, Tatar... whatever?

We are not a regional ethnic group like Greeks
We spanned in a vast region so its normal to have genetic differences among us

[itilvolga]

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We are waiting for Kivan

Don’t hold your breath.

[Blondie]

Only Oghuz admixture makes true Kebabmongers, we don't deal with refurbished Mongoloid admixture from ebay.

we wuz bure n shiet

[Thracian]

None of the groups I mentioned is Turkish speaking but they are regarded as Balkan Turks in Turkey. Taking Kaspias as reference for Turkish speakers(which is arbitrary enough and we need larger samples), how do we know that the "mongoloid" is originally Oghuz and not Avar, Tatar... whatever?

1. No one calls them as Balkan Turks in Turkey. Only other Balkan natives call them Turks because of their religion.
2. It depends on the region. For example, many Balkan Turks mixed with Tatars in Razgrad but we can not say same thing in Kardjali.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

None of the groups I mentioned is Turkish speaking but they are regarded as Balkan Turks in Turkey. Taking Kaspias as reference for Turkish speakers(which is arbitrary enough and we need larger samples), how do we know that the "mongoloid" is originally Oghuz and not Avar, Tatar... whatever?

Cuz other Balkaners would have it too, but they have much less than them. I don't consider Bosniaks, Pomaks, Albanians Turks tbh. They're just assimilants to Turkish gene pool, not ethnic Turks like this minority in Bulgaria.

[Faklon]

1. No one calls them as Balkan Turks in Turkey. Only other Balkan natives call them Turks because of their religion.
2. It depends on the region. For example, many Balkan Turks mixed with Tatars in Razgrad but we can not say same thing in Kardjali.

1. From what I recall they all fall under the Muhacir umbrella, when people post Balkan Turks they casually post Bosniaks and Albanians.
2. Which would likely make them less originally Oghuz than Afro-Turks that have absorbed original Ottoman Turk admixture.

[Bosniensis]

Vote for me people!

[Dorian]

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Very nice,how much?

[Thracian]

1. From what I recall they all fall under the Muhacir umbrella, when people post Balkan Turks they casually post Bosniaks and Albanians.
2. Which would likely make them less originally Oghuz than Afro-Turks that have absorbed original Ottoman Turk admixture.

1. Not actually. Not even all Balkan Turks fall under the Muhacir umbrella. There are some groups among Balkan Turks, these are Mountaineers, Gajals and Muhacirs.
2. I think it depends on individuals. I haven't seen any Afro-Turkish results yet. I have seen some Balkan Turks (not Pomaks, Bosniaks, Albanians and Cretans) score over than 10% Mongoloid. There are also many Balkan Turks (not Pomaks, Bosniaks, Albanians and Cretans again) score less. I recommend you can take a look some threads already opened by Kaspias in Autosomal DNA section, if you have time.

[Bosniensis]

Scythians with whom I plot are Turks and are Oghuz related people... ! TURAN!