Armenia, The Homeland of the Sumerians?

[Mesoman]

Nope

Distance to: Armenian_Hemsheni_u
0.00388065 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.01757822 Georgian_Laz
0.01863525 Greek_Trabzon
0.01963280 Turkish_Trabzon
0.02423417 Georgian_Kakh
0.02616763 Armenian
0.02683335 Ahiska
0.03150255 Georgian_Kart
0.03151819 Georgian_Ajar
0.03259064 Udi
0.03867546 Assyrian
0.04101535 Georgian_Jew
0.04279786 Georgian_Imer
0.04413761 Turkish_East
0.04585643 Greek_Cappadocia
0.04786173 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.04946012 Georgian_Megr
0.05071924 Mountain_Jew
0.05292429 Dersim
0.05321475 Abkhasian
0.05339579 Kurdish
0.05475580 Talysh_Azerbaijan
0.05516721 Iranian_Jew
0.05631186 Georgian_Khevs
0.05644472 Georgian_Tush

Distance to: Armenian_updated_scaled
0.01310651 Armenian
0.02330422 Turkish_Trabzon
0.02382405 Greek_Trabzon
0.02675079 Assyrian
0.02718213 Georgian_Jew
0.02807498 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.02980514 Udi
0.03352390 Greek_Cappadocia
0.03571294 Georgian_Laz
0.03637322 Turkish_East
0.03708204 Ahiska
0.03763188 Georgian_Kart
0.03859968 Georgian_Kakh
0.03886136 Mountain_Jew
0.03903776 Iranian_Jew
0.04009056 Dersim
0.04097301 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.04419188 Kurdish
0.04519228 Iraqi_Jew
0.04718715 Ezid
0.04860084 Azerbaijani_Turkey
0.04873394 Talysh_Azerbaijan
0.04898728 Georgian_Ajar
0.04913171 Turkish_Kayseri
0.05207736 Lebanese_Druze


Hamshentsi are definitely closer to Georgians. With the exception of Georgian Jews(who've likely absorbed Georgian admixture), Armenians are a bit closer to Laz, Kartulians and Kakhetians than to Mizrahi

Agreed. In Mizrahim I meant Azeri and Georgian Jews. I am not so sure about the Georgian admixture in Georgian Jews. Ever since Georgian Jews arrived in Georgia 26 centuries ago they started living in their own ghettos and established closed communities with no gene flow coming from ethnic Georgians. Only in individual cases have Georgian Jews interbred with Georgians and my ancestry represents one of those cases I guess.

[FinalFlash]

Agreed. In Mizrahim I meant Azeri and Georgian Jews. I am not so sure about the Georgian admixture in Georgian Jews. Ever since Georgian Jews arrived in Georgia 26 centuries ago they started living in their own ghettos and established closed communities with no gene flow coming from ethnic Georgians. Only in individual cases have Georgian Jews interbred with Georgians and my ancestry represents one of those cases I guess.

Maybe not Georgian but some sort of ancient Anatolian-like admixture that pulls your further North relative to other Mizrahis.

[Mesoman]

Maybe not Georgian but some sort of ancient Anatolian-like admixture that pulls your further North relative to other Mizrahis.

Yes, hence Georgian Jews plot closest to Assyrians and also close to an Anatolian population like Western Armenians. According to G25, Assyrians plot closer to Iranian Jews, Mountain Jews and Iraqi Jews than Georgian Jews plot to these populations. The difference isn't big, it's small but still...

[oszkar07]

Nope

Distance to: Armenian_Hemsheni_u
0.00388065 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.01757822 Georgian_Laz
0.01863525 Greek_Trabzon
0.01963280 Turkish_Trabzon
0.02423417 Georgian_Kakh
0.02616763 Armenian
0.02683335 Ahiska
0.03150255 Georgian_Kart
0.03151819 Georgian_Ajar
0.03259064 Udi
0.03867546 Assyrian
0.04101535 Georgian_Jew
0.04279786 Georgian_Imer
0.04413761 Turkish_East
0.04585643 Greek_Cappadocia
0.04786173 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.04946012 Georgian_Megr
0.05071924 Mountain_Jew
0.05292429 Dersim
0.05321475 Abkhasian
0.05339579 Kurdish
0.05475580 Talysh_Azerbaijan
0.05516721 Iranian_Jew
0.05631186 Georgian_Khevs
0.05644472 Georgian_Tush

Distance to: Armenian_updated_scaled
0.01310651 Armenian
0.02330422 Turkish_Trabzon
0.02382405 Greek_Trabzon
0.02675079 Assyrian
0.02718213 Georgian_Jew
0.02807498 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.02980514 Udi
0.03352390 Greek_Cappadocia
0.03571294 Georgian_Laz
0.03637322 Turkish_East
0.03708204 Ahiska
0.03763188 Georgian_Kart
0.03859968 Georgian_Kakh
0.03886136 Mountain_Jew
0.03903776 Iranian_Jew
0.04009056 Dersim
0.04097301 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.04419188 Kurdish
0.04519228 Iraqi_Jew
0.04718715 Ezid
0.04860084 Azerbaijani_Turkey
0.04873394 Talysh_Azerbaijan
0.04898728 Georgian_Ajar
0.04913171 Turkish_Kayseri
0.05207736 Lebanese_Druze


Hamshentsi are definitely closer to Georgians. With the exception of Georgian Jews(who've likely absorbed Georgian admixture), Armenians are a bit closer to Laz, Kartulians and Kakhetians than to Mizrahi

My wife who is Armenian from Iran

Distance to: OscarWife
0.02603820 Greek_Trabzon
0.02696089 Armenian
0.02881897 Turkish_Trabzon
0.03416091 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.03842088 Georgian_Laz
0.03890355 Georgian_Jew
0.03951544 Greek_Cappadocia
0.03964933 Assyrian
0.03995591 Ahiska
0.04207126 Udi
0.04792592 Turkish_East
0.04814351 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.04857374 Iranian_Jew
0.05001433 Mountain_Jew
0.05137926 Iraqi_Jew
0.05292054 Dersim
0.05620070 Georgian_Imer
0.05773230 Kurdish
0.05816334 Druze
0.05835054 Lebanese_Druze
0.05848555 Azerbaijani_Turkey
0.05898371 Turkish_Kayseri
0.06014949 Ezid
0.06038106 Talysh_Azerbaijan
0.06095053 Karaite_Egypt

[FinalFlash]

My wife who is Armenian from Iran

Distance to: OscarWife
0.02603820 Greek_Trabzon
0.02696089 Armenian
0.02881897 Turkish_Trabzon
0.03416091 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.03842088 Georgian_Laz
0.03890355 Georgian_Jew
0.03951544 Greek_Cappadocia
0.03964933 Assyrian
0.03995591 Ahiska
0.04207126 Udi
0.04792592 Turkish_East
0.04814351 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.04857374 Iranian_Jew
0.05001433 Mountain_Jew
0.05137926 Iraqi_Jew
0.05292054 Dersim
0.05620070 Georgian_Imer
0.05773230 Kurdish
0.05816334 Druze
0.05835054 Lebanese_Druze
0.05848555 Azerbaijani_Turkey
0.05898371 Turkish_Kayseri
0.06014949 Ezid
0.06038106 Talysh_Azerbaijan
0.06095053 Karaite_Egypt

Nice. Can you PM me her coordinates? I want to have her updated into the average.

[Roy]

Aren't the original Sumerians Anunnaki though?