Scandinavian origin of Rurik confirmed

[PaleoEuropean]

Y-DNA K was a west Asian Caucasoid 50,000 years ago like your Haplogroup I and its J relative.

Mad Asian alert, hide your soy sauce folks.

[PaleoEuropean]

G was Iranicized by R1a, piggy. Indo-Iranian languages came from Corded Ware R1a. R1a males migrated to the Caucasus to marry mtDNA T women after they got through bleaching your women. R is a European Hunter Gatherer haplogroup.

Don't be mad

You are a Chinaman cosplaying as a European.

[PaleoEuropean]

G was Iranicized by R1a, piggy. Indo-Iranian languages came from Corded Ware R1a. R1a males migrated to the Caucasus to marry mtDNA T women after they got through bleaching your women. R is a European Hunter Gatherer haplogroup.

"R is a European Hunter Gather haplgroup" That is the single most retarded thing I have ever heard on TA. Congrats, you just blew my mind with your retardery.

[Peterski]

What about this theory that Rurik was I2a but later Ingegerd cheated on Yaroslav (and hence N1c)?:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...10228-Rurikids

[PaleoEuropean]

What about this theory that Rurik was I2a but later Ingegerd cheated on Yaroslav (and hence N1c)?:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...10228-Rurikids

Interesting theory, but that takes out adoption. Many Scandinavians adopted locals into their family, that is how they merged with natives in every land they settled alongside marriage. They have also been known to give fake origin stories to great warriors who weren't Northmen. There are many factors when you are dealing with colonization and the merging of powerful families and allies. Also I2a is really uncommon in Norway, it's mostly a Danish line when it comes to Scandinavians, but there are of course exceptions.

[Yaglakar]

From 2006 to 2017 over 40 DNA samples were obtained from living members of the Rurikid Dynasty and processed through DNA testing, the eventual results grouped the participants into 3 haplogroups ( N lc l, R ia l, and I2al). The group that had the highest frequency and was also the most interrelated was the group belonging to subclade N-Y4339 (40%) represented by the following genealogical lines (Massalsky, Puzyna, Lobanov-Rostovsky, Khilkov, Gagarins, Putyatin, R z h e v s k y , T a t i s h c h e v , K r o p o t k i n , and Shakhovsky).


Figure 1. A brief version of the Rurikid pedigree according to P.V. Dolgorukov. The ancestors of the genealogical lines and the generation of Rurik are indicated.

The DNA samples of these genealogical lines of Rurikid underwent extensive sequencing of the Y chromosome (BigY test) in the laboratories of Family Tree DNA in Houston (USA), and the concluding results established the degree of paternal kinship.

Within the haplogroup N-Y4339 there is a common SNP shared by the entire Rurikid group, that SNP being Y10931 and whiles the presences of other certain SNP's convincingly shows that the Rurikid group N-Y10931 is divided into three branches. One branch determined by SNPs VL15, VL16, VL17 and VL18 (princes Massalsky and Puzyna), the second by VL11 (princes Lobanov-Rostovsky, Gagarin and Putyatin) and the third by VL12 (princes Kropotkin and Shakhovski, Rzhevsky and Tatishchev).


Figure 2. Phylogenetic tree of lineage N-Y10931 according to Y-SNP and Y-STR markers.

The extensively sequenced Y-chromosome data clearly shows an extremely accurate correlation between the distribution of distinctive mutations within the different groups of Rurik's descendants and the traditional documented pedigree of Rurikid. The results clearly testify that the documentary genealogy of Rurikid as a whole truly reflects that of the interrelated genetic structure of the participants within the study.

The genetic lineage of N-Y10931 is derived from the subclade N-Y4339, and distrubition of this subclade is primarily found in Sweden (52%) followed by Finland (14%) Russia (10%), Britain (10%) with a smaller frequency in Norway (5%) and Ukraine (5%).

The phylogenetic tree convincingly shows that the origin of the lineage N-Y4339 is rooted in the territory of Sweden, and the results clearly show that the closest to Rurikid are the representatives of the lineage N-Y85136 whose ancestors lived in the Uppsala region of Sweden and having a common ancestor who lived 1200-1350 years ago, clearly showing a good correlation with the main genealogy of Rurikid and Rurik's lifetime.


Figure 4. Phylogenetic tree of subclade N-Y4341.

In general, the genetic data indicates that the most likely region of residence of the closest paternal ancestors of Rurik to be that of the Uppsala region of Sweden.


Figure 5. Residences of ancestors different lines N-Y4339

- Old Ladoga - residence of Rurik
- N-Y85136 - close genetic relatives of Rurikid
- N-Y5611
- N-Y12104
- N-Y19111
• - N-Y4339 (XY10932, Y5611, Y12104, Y19111)
♦ - N-Y4339* (Sigtuna, Sweden)

Again the genetic results fully confirm the historical accounts of the early Russian chronicles about the Scandinavian origin of Rurik.

http://trog.narod.ru/articles/Geneti...ik_Dynasty.pdf

[Lemgrant]

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