Ask Polish users about Poland

[Hajimurad]

From this ... very places? Unless you mean those Early Slavic migrations and the origin of a local folk?

I mean townsfolk of these prominent cities before XIX-XXth c. . and their origin and family names.

[Peterski]

I mean townsfolk of these prominent cities before XIX-XXth c. . and their origin and family names.

It is not such easily available data you would need to start research and look into archival documents such as tax registers etc. Most of it is now digitalized and available online but scattered throughout many sources. Here you have some for 18th century Poznań:

"Baza danych mieszkańców Poznania w 1792 r. na podstawie spisu posesji miasta":
("Database of inhabitants of Poznań in 1792 based on property census in the city")

http://www.bkpan.poznan.pl/projekty-...70/poz-baz.htm

(for 16th century such data is probably available in "Atlas historyczny Polski XVI wieku" series)

Check this website too: http://www.atlasfontium.pl/index.php...ns&language=en

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For Northern Poland in 1772/73 check: http://www.odessa3.org/collections/land/wprussia/

[Peterski]

Interesting that there was a guy Józef Rokossoski in Poznań (Tum street, house 7) in 1792.

Maybe ancestor or some relative of?: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konstantin_Rokossovsky

[Dunai]

Do these have a very Slavic look too? Some people say that they don't, I suspect that only some do in a way that you likely mean. They are from a place that is far from Gdańsk, and closer to Hungary.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...gion-pass-best

The people in that thread don't really look close to Hungarian youngsters, interestingly they also look different from youngsters I seen in Northern Poland, but definitely still look closer to Northern Poland than Hungary.

[Hajimurad]

Interesting that there was a guy Józef Rokossoski in Poznań (Tum street, house 7) in 1792.

Maybe ancestor or some relative of?: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konstantin_Rokossovsky

Maybe. According to Russian sources his ancestral home was that village https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rokoso...nd_Voivodeship

[Roy]

Bump

[Ülev]

Василий троллит как всегда

The Coronavirus Disinformation Campaign Against Poland
Russia uses fake news to divide Europe.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-cor...nd-11585509765

who is trolling here?

[Ülev]

oh no!
Внезапно! Польша отказалась от российской нефти и ушла к саудитам / Breaking news! Poland abandoned Russian oil and went to the Saudis

[Peterski]

Coon, claimed that the upper classes in Poland were more Nordid

^^^
Classify Hereditary Count and Nobleman of the Polish Kingdom and Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...92#post6649992 <--- photo here

[Östsvensk]

^^^
Classify Hereditary Count and Nobleman of the Polish Kingdom and Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...92#post6649992 <--- photo here

Well, I don't know if Coon ever visited the country. He may have been parroting what Günther, who made similar claims as he believed that Nordids represented the upper class race, said in his books.

What Coon said in The Races of Europe:

"The facial features which typify the Polish peasantry are quite different, as a rule, from those found among the nobility and the upper classes in general. The noblemen have less blond and less really dark hair; fewer dark eyes, and fewer instances of brunet skin color, than the peasants; their noses, however, present their greatest distinction; these are not only longer and narrower, but also frequently convex in profile, with concave forms reduced to a minimum. Old Corded and Nordic tendencies segregate themselves, at least in stature, bodily build, pigmentation, and facial features, in this superordinate class, as do Danubian and Ladogan tendencies among the peasantry."

Nevertheless, there was a Czech study a few years ago which found that Nordiform people were viewed as more intelligent. It did not manage to find the actual correlation to be true, however.

Faces that are perceived as highly intelligent are rather prolonged with a broader distance between the eyes, a larger nose, a slight upturn to the corners of the mouth, and a sharper, pointing, less rounded chin. By contrast, the perception of lower intelligence is associated with broader, more rounded faces with eyes closer to each other, a shorter nose, declining corners of the mouth, and a rounded and massive chin. By contrast, we found no correlation between morphological traits and real intelligence measured with IQ test, either in men or women.

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/ar...l.pone.0081237