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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimean View Post
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    When a Russian says that he understands the Ukrainians, he means the Russian-Ukrainian dialect of the Eastern part of Ukraine. Real Ukrainian (from the western regions, especially the Carpathians) is mutually incomprehensible to Russian completely. Russian will meet there some familiar words, but the general meaning will be absolutely not clear...
    Which Ukrainian is 'real' is debatable. The fact that western Ukrainians have borrowed a big lot of Polish words doesn't make their dialect more Ukrainian.

    Mountain peoples (like Carpathians and Slovenes) usually have small and distinct dialects or languages because of geography.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dominator View Post
    the language in the Ukrainian news is different from the one that Ukrainians speak in real life
    if someone cannot understand the news or by reading local newspapers, he can only be called a tourist and not a citizen of this country. We for example have many Gypsies here in Greece that have the Greek citizenship but they hardly know the Greek language. That's unacceptable and should not be allowed.
    Roma percentage in Greece that is illiterate is 62%, not knowing writing and reading.

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    Klichko can't master any language yet he's the major of Kiev, not a tourist.

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    russian and ukrainian are close but they have they linguistic specification,indeed ukrainian is nearer of polish than russian,or how to date an ukrainina girl when you are a westener who belongs of the romance group,meaning speaking french,english and more near of italian,spanish,portuguese etc, for romanian it's a romance language but it's a little more with slavic influences but it's quite understable
    solution for dating an ukrainian girl without learning cyrillic from ukrainian to polish and polish to french and versus ,seriously this alphabet is a non-sens and having been reformed like the polls doe,since ages,but i prefer by far than arabic, i hate arabic musicality
    another thing i have watch two scandinavian tv series with subtitles it's seems than danish is nearer of english than swedish with a tiny influence of german,i want mean the sentences construction fit more than in swedish, like dutch ,swedish is more elleptic,but it's very sad than slavic are prisonner of this slavic thing they are not very open on the western languages, i hope than the level of english of the young generation is better than the previous generation

    what sound slavic langages to my hears hhmm chechecheche,but russian looks pretty simple to learn aside this fucking rhutenian alphabet



    french/english approximative by myself russian transliterate russian
    Le chat mange la souris Кот ест мышь Kot est mysh’
    the cat eat the mouse

    Je vois le chat Я вижу кота Ja vizhu kota
    I see the cat

    Le chat me voit Кот меня видит Kot menja vidit
    the cat see me

    Les chats mangent les souris Кошки едят мышей Koshki edjat myshej
    the cats eats the mouses

    Est-ce que tu vois le chat ? Видишь кота? Vidish’ kota?
    did you see the cat?

    Je ne vois pas le chat Я не вижу кота Ja ne vizhu kota
    I don't see the cat


    Elle donne la souris au chat Она дает котy мышь Ona daet koty mysh’
    she give the mouse to the cat


    C’est la souris du chat Эта мышь кота Jeta mysh’ kota
    it's the cat's mouse


    we have a few words from russian in french like bistro frenchify in bistrot,from the soldiers, bistro! bistro!

    for me aside davaï and kurva meanning shit in polish,it's very limited,the latinisation of the ruthenian/cyrillic alphabet is very needed,i feel near of my eastener coosins,really, but if the they pretend to be european why don't modernised the language,as is we were more able to be on the same level
    what it's sading me,it's than i show than french ,that i remind you, is major language spoken than more than 220 millions ,it's not more translated on website like open subtitles,who give a damn shit of arabic,urdu,for the last hollywoodian blockbuster ,does these third worlders have not better things to do?
    funny thing i have translate a european language than i don't remember for the last SW with subtitle cat and it's was more near of french what i hwas thinking ,for sure you have some approximative part but was more understable than english to french with shitty symbols at the place of the accents
    for ending the best translator than i know is https://translate.yandex.com/ 100 ranks above google,and my music player is http://www.aimp.ru/ the only one you need the algorithm is stunning
    speaking of music i don't a lot of slavic bands in my very special musical tastes aside laibach(lubjana),borghesia for slovenia, discipline A kitschme, or something like that from serbia but i have never listen ,robotiko rejekto,meaning romanian immigrants who live in germany: a few tracks in romanian,and the very good electro-pop band TORUL,slovenian again for the rest of the countries is quite desert on the international scene
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    russian and ukrainian are close but they have they linguistic specification,indeed ukrainian is nearer of polish than russian,or how to date an ukrainian girl when you are a westener who belongs of the romance group,meaning speaking french,english and more near of italian,spanish,portuguese etc, for romanian it's a romance language but it's a little more with slavic influences but it's quite understable
    solution for dating an ukrainian girl without learning cyrillic from ukrainian to polish and polish to french and versus ,seriously this alphabet is a non-sens and having been reformed like the polls doe,since ages,but i prefer by far than arabic, i hate arabic musicality
    another thing i have watch two scandinavian tv series with subtitles it's seems than danish is nearer of english than swedish with a tiny influence of german,i want mean the sentences construction fit more than in swedish, like dutch ,swedish is more elleptic,but it's very sad than slavic are prisonner of this slavic thing they are not very open on the western languages, i hope than the level of english of the young generation is better than the previous generation

    what sound slavic langages to my hears hhmm chechecheche,but russian looks pretty simple to learn aside this fucking rhutenian alphabet



    french/english approximative by myself russian transliterate russian
    Le chat mange la souris Кот ест мышь Kot est mysh’
    the cat eat the mouse

    Je vois le chat Я вижу кота Ja vizhu kota
    I see the cat

    Le chat me voit Кот меня видит Kot menja vidit
    the cat see me

    Les chats mangent les souris Кошки едят мышей Koshki edjat myshej
    the cats eats the mouses

    Est-ce que tu vois le chat ? Видишь кота? Vidish’ kota?
    did you see the cat?

    Je ne vois pas le chat Я не вижу кота Ja ne vizhu kota
    I don't see the cat


    Elle donne la souris au chat Она дает котy мышь Ona daet koty mysh’
    she give the mouse to the cat


    C’est la souris du chat Эта мышь кота Jeta mysh’ kota
    it's the cat's mouse


    we have a few words from russian in french like bistro frenchify in bistrot,from the soldiers, bistro! bistro!

    for me aside davaï and kurva meanning shit in polish,it's very limited,the latinisation of the ruthenian/cyrillic alphabet is very needed,i feel near of my eastener coosins,really, but if the they pretend to be european why don't modernised the language,as is we were more able to be on the same level
    what it's sading me,it's than i show than french ,that i remind you, is major language spoken than more than 220 millions ,it's not more translated on website like open subtitles,who give a damn shit of arabic,urdu,for the last hollywoodian blockbuster ,does these third worlders have not better things to do?
    funny thing i have translate a european language than i don't remember for the last SW with subtitle cat and it's was more near of french what i was thinking ,for sure you have some approximative part but was more understable than english to french with shitty symbols at the place of the accents
    for ending the best translator than i know is https://translate.yandex.com/ 100 ranks above google,and my music player is http://www.aimp.ru/ the only one you need the algorithm is stunning
    speaking of music i don't a lot of slavic bands in my very special musical tastes aside laibach(lubjana),borghesia for slovenia, discipline A kitschme, or something like that from serbia but i have never listen ,robotiko rejekto,meaning romanian immigrants who live in germany: a few tracks in romanian,and the very good electro-pop band TORUL,slovenian again for the rest of the countries is quite desert on the international scene
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumata View Post
    Klichko can't master any language yet he's the major of Kiev, not a tourist.
    Klitschko is a total imbecile. That's not a surprise though, that's the logical consequence of the continuous beats in the head which causes brain damage. The previous Mayor was even worse than Klitschko.
    Fortunately I am not a citizen of Ukraine, but a citizen of Greece (because Ukraine does not recognize dual citizenship)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemgrant View Post
    if someone cannot understand the news or by reading local newspapers, he can only be called a tourist and not a citizen of this country. We for example have many Gypsies here in Greece that have the Greek citizenship but they hardly know the Greek language. That's unacceptable and should not be allowed.
    Roma percentage in Greece that is illiterate is 62%, not knowing writing and reading.
    The official Ukrainian language is artificial. he is in a state of renewal


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dominator View Post
    The official Ukrainian language is artificial. he is in a state of renewal

    I think you can go as far as to saying that Ukraine is an artificial country. Which is true for any other country as well. Big part of Ukraine's land was added only recently after the WW2 (Thanks to Stalin). The modern Greek language is extremely different to ancient Greek language. Ι guess the modern Greek language is artificial language for you as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumata View Post
    Which Ukrainian is 'real' is debatable. The fact that western Ukrainians have borrowed a big lot of Polish words doesn't make their dialect more Ukrainian.
    It's true. The early Bolsheviks, specialists in the creation of artificial nations and languages (themselves being a strictly defined nation), knew the answer to this question. Their descendants also know.
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    Mountain peoples (like Carpathians and Slovenes) usually have small and distinct dialects or languages because of geography.
    A great example is the languages of the mountainous Caucasus. It is sometimes easier for the residents of neighboring villages to communicate with each other in Russian or English than in their native languages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimean View Post
    A great example is the languages of the mountainous Caucasus. It is sometimes easier for the residents of neighboring villages to communicate with each other in Russian or English than in their native languages.
    and on a bigger scale residents of neighboring countries cannot communicate with each other. That's why we should impose a new world language on all the school children of the entire world.

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