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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumata View Post
    Yes, it does. I can tell.
    No, because the genetic shows who you are, not your looking which can be misleading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Germanin View Post
    No, because the genetic shows who you are, not your looking which can be misleading.
    Genetics use calculators which ever change. But I present my competent opinion which is constant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    No, because the genetic shows who you are, not your looking which can be misleading.
    If that’s true then why did you insist on her autosomal while stating haplogroup doesn’t mean nothing? Every company gives you different autosomal results

    Haplogroup H and its subtypes are the only native european mtdna haplogroups. T1 is middle eastern, and connected to iranic indo-europeans.
    And you are european if you have predominantly european autosomal genetic (90%+), looking doesn't matter.
    Genetics is haplogroup. If you’re a South Korean Man and marry a Russian women and your kids marry a Russian women, are they descendants of South Koreans or Russians? They would have your 90% threshold needed to be of that ethnicity but your thinking is flawed, you take paternally your ethnicity.

    If you want to take genetics instead of looks, then you need to take the most important which is haplogroup which archeologists use not autosomal which is a tool made for people to entertain themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashail View Post
    so guys I did my MTDNA test and what I know that both my parents from north Iraq my dad is Kurdish and my mother is arab whatever the results freaked me out
    according to family tree dna that I am European from T1 dna that excite in current days only in northwest and central and southeastern Europe.!!!!
    it showed me my ancient ancestors where they came from so I got
    4 Swedish ancestors
    3 German
    2 irish
    1 Netherland
    1 france
    1 italy
    1 Israel
    1 Lebanon
    1 saudi
    the most interesting thing that my middle eastern ancestors they don't have arab dna but European T1 haplogroup.
    wow I always though that im fully north Iraqi I though my family looked very European cause we middle easterns can look white like Lebanese Syrians Iraqis Kurds assyrians.
    I am so confused am I middle eastern(north Iraqi) or European ?? who am I ????
    how the hell all my family speak Kurdish and arabic and they are swearing that they are nothing accept being N Iraqis middle eastern muslims.
    You are Kurdish and Arab. A North Iraqi. With a little bit of European on your mother's side. MTDNA is only the mother's mother's mother's mother's mother infinity. It can be thousands of years old. Your Arab mother's mother's mother's et cetera was probably a Western European woman that was kidnapped by the Barbary pirates or Ottomans and sold into slavery to Arabs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_slave_trade
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    Quote Originally Posted by Touijer View Post
    If that’s true then why did you insist on her autosomal while stating haplogroup doesn’t mean nothing? Every company gives you different autosomal results
    This is a myth.
    Every company gives you the same autosomal result, the difference is how those companies label the components.
    People who tested with multiple companies will confirm this to you. If you do both 23andme and Myheritage, upload the raw data to gedmatch you will see the results from the two companies are like 99% the same after converting them to gedmatch.

    Genetics is haplogroup. If you’re a South Korean Man ankorean half Russian persion wouldn't be seen as Russian, but he wouldn't be accepted in Korea as Korean either (despite your haplogroup-ideas).
    d marry a Russian women and your kids marry a Russian women, are they descendants of South Koreans or Russians? They would have your 90% threshold needed to be of that ethnicity but your thinking is flawed, you take paternally your ethnicity.
    Autosomal dna shows who you are, haplogroup show who your great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandfather was.

    A person with Korean father and Russian mother won't be seen as Russian, but he wouldn't be accepted in Korea as Korean either. So what's the point?

    If you want to take genetics instead of looks, then you need to take the most important which is haplogroup which archeologists use not autosomal which is a tool made for people to entertain themselves.
    Autosomal DNA tends to correlate with looks. In many cases you can look at a person and guess how close genetically he is to you. An haplogroup does not affect a person's appearance like a-DNA does. In USA cities people create their ethnic hoods based on autosomal dna. You think a black person who has R or I haplogroup will want to live in a white hood instead of a black one because of his HG?

    People want to live in neighborhoods where people are autosomally similar to them.
    Why don't they self-segregate based on HGs, if HG is so important? https://s3.amazonaws.com/wbez-cdn/le...rankin-map.jpg


    Archeology is just one branch of science. Other branches of science do care about autosomal and I'm sure even archeologists care about autosomal, but the technology for autosomal dna was not available until recent years.
    Last edited by Universe; 12-02-2023 at 05:23 PM.

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