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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    You've been brainwashed too much by propaganda. The SU beat Germany alone on the eastern front, the Western "help" had minimal impact on the real fighting.

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    LOLOLOOLOL why do slavs have such a huge victim complex and the largest egos on the planet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tong View Post
    LOLOLOOLOL why do slavs have such a huge victim complex and the largest egos on the planet?
    What are you talking about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    You've been brainwashed too much by propaganda. The SU beat Germany alone on the eastern front, the Western "help" had minimal impact on the real fighting.
    Stalin himself said they would have lost without American help.

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    Russia only survived because the U.S gave them vehicles, tanks, food etc. The Russians like to downplay the lend lease program. America sent them over 4000 Sherman's XD. Russia was dead in the water before the lend lease program. Without U.S APC's and trucks Russians would be speaking German in a coal mine. Grant it, Hitler didn't help the German army much with his constant interference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Stalin himself said they would have lost without American help.
    Woulda coulda shoulda


    Look at you all digging for excuses instead of giving credit where credit is due. We call people like you sore losers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by War Chief View Post
    Woulda coulda shoulda


    Look at you all digging for excuses instead of giving credit where credit is due. We call people like you sore losers.
    Except we came out of the war better than anyone. And again, I only repeated what Stalin himself said:
    "Without American machines the United Nations could never have won the war."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Except we came out of the war better than anyone. And again, I only repeated what Stalin himself said:
    "Don't dig information duuude, believe in what Big Brother told us instead. If big brother told that our great soviet people won WWII by ourselves - its true. Forget that data about lend lease, the death rate on each side... that is sore loser talk duude. Our great propaganda system has taught us everything we should know. "

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    Also, from Khrushchev's memoirs:
    I would like to express my candid opinion about Stalin's views on whether the Red Army and the Soviet Union could have coped with Nazi Germany and survived the war without aid from the United States and Britain. First, I would like to tell about some remarks Stalin made and repeated several times when we were "discussing freely" among ourselves. He stated bluntly that if the United States had not helped us, we would not have won the war. If we had had to fight Nazi Germany one on one, we could not have stood up against Germany's pressure, and we would have lost the war. No one ever discussed this subject officially, and I don't think Stalin left any written evidence of his opinion, but I will state here that several times in conversations with me he noted that these were the actual circumstances. He never made a special point of holding a conversation on the subject, but when we were engaged in some kind of relaxed conversation, going over international questions of the past and present, and when we would return to the subject of the path we had traveled during the war, that is what he said. When I listened to his remarks, I was fully in agreement with him, and today I am even more so.

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