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    Eurogenes K13
    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 23.55
    2 Baltic 21.55
    3 West_Med 16.35
    4 West_Asian 15.58
    5 North_Atlantic 13.25
    6 South_Asian 3.11
    7 Siberian 2.17
    8 Red_Sea 1.84
    9 East_Asian 1.56
    10 Amerindian 1.01

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Greek_Thessaly 9.36
    2 Bulgarian 9.58
    3 Romanian 12.05
    4 Central_Greek 13.25
    5 East_Sicilian 14.66
    6 Italian_Abruzzo 15.39
    7 Ashkenazi 15.54
    8 Serbian 16
    9 West_Sicilian 17.07
    10 South_Italian 17.5
    11 Tuscan 18.71
    12 Moldavian 19.1
    13 North_Italian 21.92
    14 Turkish 22.06
    15 Algerian_Jewish 22.25
    16 Sephardic_Jewish 22.59
    17 Croatian 22.65
    18 Italian_Jewish 22.76
    19 Hungarian 23.54
    20 Cyprian 24.86

    Eurogenes K15
    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 21.92
    2 Baltic 15.74
    3 North_Sea 14.85
    4 West_Asian 14.01
    5 West_Med 13.03
    6 Eastern_Euro 7.82
    7 Atlantic 3.86
    8 South_Asian 3.08
    9 Siberian 1.79
    10 Red_Sea 1.76
    11 Southeast_Asian 1.38
    12 Amerindian 0.76

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Greek_Thessaly 9.73
    2 Bulgarian 12.18
    3 Greek 12.97
    4 Romanian 13.06
    5 Ashkenazi 13.51
    6 Central_Greek 14.41
    7 East_Sicilian 15.6
    8 Serbian 16.26
    9 Italian_Abruzzo 16.45
    10 South_Italian 17.59
    11 Moldavian 17.87
    12 Tuscan 18.63
    13 West_Sicilian 18.68
    14 Italian_Jewish 20.96
    15 Hungarian 21.2
    16 Croatian 21.27
    17 Sephardic_Jewish 22.06
    18 Turkish 22.09
    19 North_Italian 22.21
    20 Algerian_Jewish

    MDLP K23b
    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasian 36.87
    2 European_Hunters_Gatherers 22.26
    3 European_Early_Farmers 13.15
    4 Near_East 7.26
    5 South_Central_Asian 6.03
    6 South_Indian 3.22
    7 North_African 2.44
    8 Ancestral_Altaic 2.43
    9 Amerindian 2.01
    10 Melano_Polynesian 1.04
    11 Austronesian 1
    12 East_African 0.94
    13 Tungus-Altaic 0.77
    14 East_Siberian 0.57

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Turk_Balikesir ( ) 6.34
    2 Romanian ( ) 7.05
    3 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) 7.68
    4 Gagauz ( ) 8.18
    5 Turk_Aydin ( ) 8.27
    6 Macedonian ( ) 8.38
    7 Bulgarian ( ) 8.67
    8 Croat_BH ( ) 9.34
    9 Bosnian ( ) 9.67
    10 Montenegrian ( ) 10.01
    11 Serb_BH ( ) 10.04
    12 Croat ( ) 10.29
    13 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 11.3
    14 Turk_Istanbul ( ) 11.34
    15 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 11.54
    16 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 11.64
    17 Greek_Macedonia ( ) 11.75
    18 Romanian_Jew ( ) 12
    19 Serb_Serbia ( ) 12.18
    20 Cretan ( ) 12.44

    Dodecad K12b
    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasus 28.56
    2 North_European 27.24
    3 Atlantic_Med 21.58
    4 Southwest_Asian 8.02
    5 Gedrosia 7.72
    6 Siberian 2.23
    7 Northwest_African 1.38
    8 Southeast_Asian 1.34
    9 South_Asian 1.29
    10 East_Asian 0.63

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 8.95
    2 Romanians (Behar) 10.16
    3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 10.34
    4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 12.72
    5 Greek (Dodecad) 12.94
    6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 16.33
    7 Tuscan (HGDP) 17.69
    8 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 17.76
    9 TSI30 (Metspalu) 18.06
    10 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 18.26
    11 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.49
    12 Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.66
    13 N_Italian (Dodecad) 19.72
    14 North_Italian (HGDP) 22.59
    15 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 23.64
    16 Hungarians (Behar) 23.72
    17 Turkish (Dodecad) 24.79
    18 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 25.27
    19 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 25.42
    20 Turks (Behar) 26.49

    Dodecad K7b
    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic_Baltic 44.21
    2 West_Asian 25.27
    3 Southern 24.56
    4 Siberian 2.74
    5 East_Asian 1.69
    6 South_Asian 1.53

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 9.15
    2 O_Italian (Dodecad) 9.25
    3 Tuscan (HGDP) 9.72
    4 Greek (Dodecad) 10.12
    5 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 10.22
    6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 10.9
    7 Romanians (Behar) 10.97
    8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 11
    9 N_Italian (Dodecad) 14.58
    10 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 15.42
    11 North_Italian (HGDP) 15.92
    12 Sicilian (Dodecad) 16.39
    13 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 17.09
    14 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 17.35
    15 Baleares (1000Genomes) 21.92
    16 Murcia (1000Genomes) 22.63
    17 Extremadura (1000Genomes) 22.83
    18 Canarias (1000Genomes) 22.96
    19 Andalucia (1000Genomes) 22.97
    20 Portuguese (Dodecad) 23.17

    puntDNAL K12 Modern
    # Population Percent
    1 Anatolian_NF 33.02
    2 Caucasus_HG 28.32
    3 European_HG 23.32
    4 Near_East 7.6
    5 Amerindian 2.99
    6 Beringian 1.57
    7 Sub-Saharan 1.14
    8 East_Asian 0.91
    9 Siberian 0.83
    10 South_Asian 0.3

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Bulgarian 8.19
    2 Greek 8.58
    3 Albanian 8.83
    4 Tuscan 11.14
    5 Ashkenazi_Jew 11.81
    6 Turkish_Aydin 12.2
    7 Sicilian_West 13.39
    8 Sicilian_East 13.44
    9 Croatian 14.32
    10 Romanian 15.45
    11 Italian_Bergamo 17.85
    12 Turkish 17.97
    13 Dutch_South 18.69
    14 Belgian 18.93
    15 Hungarian 19.57
    16 Nogai 19.69
    17 French 19.84
    18 German_South 20.21
    19 Utahn_European 20.58
    20 Moroccan_Jew 20.64

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    Your father's ancestry was 1/4 Drama, 1/4 Karnobat and 2/4 Kilkis as far as i remember. This was oracle result:

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    Least-squares method.
    
    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Pomak_Western-Thrace @ 5,189157
    2 Turk_Varna @ 5,453308
    3 Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace @ 5,714361
    4 Turk_Drama @ 6,000778
    5 Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain @ 6,119166
    6 Turk_Razgrad @ 6,12657
    7 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes @ 7,380759
    8 Turk_Western-Thrace-South @ 7,512344
    9 Turk_Dobruja-South @ 8,221801
    10 Pomak_Serres @ 8,364581
    11 Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-East @ 8,376902
    12 Turk_Thessaloniki @ 8,394079
    13 Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes @ 8,804939
    14 Turk_Eastern-Thrace @ 9,084177
    15 Turk_Central-Bulgaria_o @ 9,113408
    16 Turk_Central-Bulgaria @ 9,35713
    17 Turk_Serres @ 9,909914
    18 Turk_Kavala @ 9,938962
    19 Turk_Dobruja-North @ 10,051676
    20 Turk_N,Macedonia-East @ 10,135249
    36 iterations.
    
    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,571903
    2 Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,79957
    3 Turk_Varna+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-East @ 4,026293
    4 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes+Pomak_Western-Thrace @ 4,207056
    5 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-East @ 4,261315
    6 Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-South @ 4,351165
    7 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Eastern-Thrace @ 4,511536
    8 Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Pomak_Western-Thrace @ 4,566226
    9 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes+Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace @ 4,582728
    10 Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes @ 4,588872
    11 Turk_Varna+Pomak_Western-Thrace @ 4,654483
    12 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain @ 4,672479
    13 Bosniak_Bulgaria+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 4,68136
    14 Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain @ 4,731538
    15 Turk_Dobruja-South+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-East @ 4,748728
    16 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes+Pomak_Serres @ 4,764135
    17 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes+Turk_Varna @ 4,776044
    18 Turk_Razgrad+Pomak_Western-Thrace @ 4,857641
    19 Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_Varna @ 4,863586
    20 Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-East @ 4,910879
    666 iterations.
    
    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 2,514531
    2 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 2,719287
    3 50% Turk_Varna +25% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 2,88036
    4 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Varna +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,109503
    5 50% Turk_Varna +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-East +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,164471
    6 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Razgrad +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,310618
    7 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Western-Thrace-South +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,313859
    8 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Eastern-Thrace +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,336791
    9 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje +25% Turk_Drama @ 3,343096
    10 50% Turk_Varna +25% Turk_Dobruja-South +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,36403
    11 50% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje +25% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-East @ 3,39395
    12 50% Turk_Varna +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje +25% Turk_Drama @ 3,408124
    13 50% Turk_Varna +25% Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,41019
    14 50% Turk_Varna +25% Pomak_Western-Thrace +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,449112
    15 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Dobruja-South +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,468123
    16 50% Turk_Varna +25% Turk_Razgrad +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,478368
    17 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje +25% Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-East @ 3,478974
    18 50% Turk_Drama +25% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,480327
    19 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Pomak_Western-Thrace +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,537926
    20 50% Turk_Varna +25% Turk_Varna +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,538969
    23310 iterations.
    
    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 2,514531
    2 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes+Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 2,719287
    3 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 2,767306
    4 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 2,877265
    5 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 2,88036
    6 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje+Turk_Drama @ 2,931827
    7 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Razgrad+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 2,954561
    8 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Dobruja-South+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 2,978608
    9 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,014792
    10 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Dobruja-South+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,021151
    11 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Pomak_Western-Thrace+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,039055
    12 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Turk_Dobruja-South+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,045054
    13 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Pomak_Western-Thrace+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,066996
    14 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,109503
    15 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,115335
    16 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,123321
    17 Turk_Varna+Pomak_Western-Thrace+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,131673
    18 Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Turk_Varna+Bosniak_Bulgaria+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,158902
    19 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes+Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,159477
    20 Turk_Varna+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,164471
    21 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes+Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Western-Thrace+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,182675
    22 Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Bosniak_Bulgaria+Pomak_Western-Thrace+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,19609
    23 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,200888
    24 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,207262
    25 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Bosniak_Bulgaria+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,210314
    26 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,211995
    27 Turk_Varna+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,233114
    28 Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,269782
    29 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes+Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,279668
    30 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Dobruja-South+Turk_Razgrad+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,294761
    31 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Dobruja-South+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje+Turk_Drama @ 3,308825
    32 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Razgrad+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,310618
    33 Turk_Western-Thrace-South+Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,313859
    34 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Torbesh_Macedonia+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,318721
    35 Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-East @ 3,330835
    36 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Eastern-Thrace+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,336791
    37 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Dobruja-South+Pomak_Western-Thrace+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,336823
    38 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje+Turk_Drama @ 3,343096
    39 Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje+Turk_Drama @ 3,358595
    40 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,361194
    82251 iterations.
    
    
    Gaussian method.
    Noise dispersion set to 0,384776
    
    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Turk_Varna @ 4,689951
    2 Turk_Serres @ 4,7929
    3 Turk_Drama @ 5,050243
    4 Turk_Western-Thrace-South @ 5,229739
    5 Turk_Central-Bulgaria @ 5,980306
    6 Turk_N,Macedonia-East @ 6,288542
    7 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes @ 6,644126
    8 Turk_Eastern-Thrace @ 6,663366
    9 Pomak_Serres @ 6,881191
    10 Turk_Dobruja-North @ 7,017159
    11 Turk_Dobruja-South @ 7,105406
    12 Turk_Silistra @ 7,143619
    13 Alevi-Turk_Central-Bulgaria @ 7,174993
    14 Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes @ 7,208595
    15 Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 7,334827
    16 Turk_Ivaylovgrad @ 7,533904
    17 Turk_Razgrad @ 7,897904
    18 Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-East @ 8,467175
    19 Albanian_Macedonia @ 8,716096
    20 Alevi-Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace @ 11,066655
    36 iterations.
    
    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,810987
    2 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna @ 4,011785
    3 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Serres @ 4,145616
    4 Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_Varna @ 4,176214
    5 Turk_Serres+Turk_Varna @ 4,222492
    6 Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_Serres @ 4,28107
    7 Turk_Varna+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain @ 4,311968
    8 Turk_Western-Thrace-South+Pomak_Serres @ 4,43738
    9 Turk_Varna+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-East @ 4,471987
    10 Turk_Western-Thrace-South+Turk_Varna @ 4,498938
    11 Alevi-Turk_Central-Bulgaria+Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace @ 4,504998
    12 Turk_Varna+Pomak_Western-Thrace @ 4,543164
    13 Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_Central-Bulgaria @ 4,557202
    14 Turk_Varna+Turk_Drama @ 4,61564
    15 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Central-Bulgaria @ 4,633709
    16 Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Torbesh_Macedonia @ 4,652953
    17 Turk_Varna+Torbesh_Macedonia @ 4,677665
    18 Turk_Serres+Pomak_Western-Thrace @ 4,678127
    19 Turk_Varna+Turk_Varna @ 4,689951
    20 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes @ 4,71671
    666 iterations.
    
    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Varna +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,429957
    2 50% Turk_Varna +25% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,432989
    3 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Serres +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,432991
    4 50% Turk_Serres +25% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,565124
    5 50% Turk_Varna +25% Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,645529
    6 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Central-Bulgaria +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,674168
    7 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Alevi-Turk_Central-Bulgaria +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,674316
    8 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-East +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,708202
    9 50% Turk_Varna +25% Torbesh_Macedonia +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,713391
    10 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Western-Thrace-South +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,714694
    11 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,720198
    12 50% Turk_Varna +25% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Serres @ 3,786998
    13 50% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje +25% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-East @ 3,799848
    14 50% Turk_Varna +25% Turk_Serres +25% Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain @ 3,805076
    15 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,810987
    16 50% Turk_Varna +25% Turk_Varna +25% Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain @ 3,811471
    17 50% Turk_Varna +25% Alevi-Turk_Central-Bulgaria +25% Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace @ 3,823967
    18 50% Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace +25% Alevi-Turk_Central-Bulgaria +25% Turk_Varna @ 3,829049
    19 50% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje +25% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Varna @ 3,846353
    20 50% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje +25% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Serres @ 3,853423
    23310 iterations.
    
    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,33211
    2 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,429957
    3 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,432989
    4 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,432991
    5 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Serres+Turk_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,565124
    6 Alevi-Turk_Central-Bulgaria+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,56864
    7 Turk_Western-Thrace-South+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,617634
    8 Alevi-Turk_Central-Bulgaria+Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,620385
    9 Turk_Varna+Turk_Varna+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,645529
    10 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,658173
    11 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,6677
    12 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Central-Bulgaria+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,674168
    13 Alevi-Turk_Central-Bulgaria+Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,674316
    14 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,682403
    15 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,68586
    16 Turk_Western-Thrace-South+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,705493
    17 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,708202
    18 Alevi-Turk_Central-Bulgaria+Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,709522
    19 Turk_Varna+Turk_Varna+Torbesh_Macedonia+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,713391
    20 Turk_Western-Thrace-South+Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,714694
    21 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,720198
    22 Turk_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,72035
    23 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_Central-Bulgaria+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,737875
    24 Alevi-Turk_Central-Bulgaria+Turk_Varna+Torbesh_Macedonia+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,767492
    25 Turk_Varna+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,771699
    26 Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,773927
    27 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje+Turk_Drama @ 3,775261
    28 Turk_Western-Thrace-South+Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,781808
    29 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Torbesh_Macedonia+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,782299
    30 Turk_Serres+Turk_Varna+Torbesh_Macedonia+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,784326
    31 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_Varna @ 3,786998
    32 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje+Turk_Drama @ 3,799472
    33 Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,799848
    34 Turk_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_Varna+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain @ 3,805076
    35 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Torbesh_Macedonia+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,807202
    36 Alevi-Turk_Central-Bulgaria+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,808031
    37 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,809009
    38 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,810987
    39 Turk_Varna+Turk_Varna+Turk_Varna+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain @ 3,811471
    40 Alevi-Turk_Central-Bulgaria+Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_Varna+Turk_Varna @ 3,823967
    82251 iterations.

    He insistenly got Pomak, even got more than me. Regarding this oracle and other Gedmatch results, i would say it is certain that Drama side was ethnic Pomak. Your y-DNA also comes from this side.
    On the other hand, i'm almost sure you have Albanian admixture in your Kilkis side but i can't say they were 100% ethnic Albanian. They actually seem very southern shifted for Balkan Turks just like other Macedonia samples. Greek+Albanian+Turkmen admixture is most likely.
    Majority of East Eurasian admixture comes from Karnobat.

    We actually have similar results with your father. But he has Med. input while i have East Eurasian input.

    These are your wegene results:


    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
    Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
    MT: K1a --> Iron Gates, Starcevo, Bulgaria N, Bulgaria CA, Bulgaria BA.

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    Your father's ancestry was 1/4 Drama, 1/4 Karnobat and 2/4 Kilkis as far as i remember. This was oracle result:

    Code:
    Least-squares method.
    
    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Pomak_Western-Thrace @ 5,189157
    2 Turk_Varna @ 5,453308
    3 Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace @ 5,714361
    4 Turk_Drama @ 6,000778
    5 Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain @ 6,119166
    6 Turk_Razgrad @ 6,12657
    7 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes @ 7,380759
    8 Turk_Western-Thrace-South @ 7,512344
    9 Turk_Dobruja-South @ 8,221801
    10 Pomak_Serres @ 8,364581
    11 Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-East @ 8,376902
    12 Turk_Thessaloniki @ 8,394079
    13 Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes @ 8,804939
    14 Turk_Eastern-Thrace @ 9,084177
    15 Turk_Central-Bulgaria_o @ 9,113408
    16 Turk_Central-Bulgaria @ 9,35713
    17 Turk_Serres @ 9,909914
    18 Turk_Kavala @ 9,938962
    19 Turk_Dobruja-North @ 10,051676
    20 Turk_N,Macedonia-East @ 10,135249
    36 iterations.
    
    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,571903
    2 Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,79957
    3 Turk_Varna+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-East @ 4,026293
    4 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes+Pomak_Western-Thrace @ 4,207056
    5 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-East @ 4,261315
    6 Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-South @ 4,351165
    7 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Eastern-Thrace @ 4,511536
    8 Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Pomak_Western-Thrace @ 4,566226
    9 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes+Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace @ 4,582728
    10 Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes @ 4,588872
    11 Turk_Varna+Pomak_Western-Thrace @ 4,654483
    12 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain @ 4,672479
    13 Bosniak_Bulgaria+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 4,68136
    14 Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain @ 4,731538
    15 Turk_Dobruja-South+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-East @ 4,748728
    16 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes+Pomak_Serres @ 4,764135
    17 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes+Turk_Varna @ 4,776044
    18 Turk_Razgrad+Pomak_Western-Thrace @ 4,857641
    19 Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_Varna @ 4,863586
    20 Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-East @ 4,910879
    666 iterations.
    
    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 2,514531
    2 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 2,719287
    3 50% Turk_Varna +25% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 2,88036
    4 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Varna +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,109503
    5 50% Turk_Varna +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-East +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,164471
    6 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Razgrad +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,310618
    7 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Western-Thrace-South +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,313859
    8 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Eastern-Thrace +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,336791
    9 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje +25% Turk_Drama @ 3,343096
    10 50% Turk_Varna +25% Turk_Dobruja-South +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,36403
    11 50% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje +25% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-East @ 3,39395
    12 50% Turk_Varna +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje +25% Turk_Drama @ 3,408124
    13 50% Turk_Varna +25% Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,41019
    14 50% Turk_Varna +25% Pomak_Western-Thrace +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,449112
    15 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Dobruja-South +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,468123
    16 50% Turk_Varna +25% Turk_Razgrad +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,478368
    17 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje +25% Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-East @ 3,478974
    18 50% Turk_Drama +25% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,480327
    19 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Pomak_Western-Thrace +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,537926
    20 50% Turk_Varna +25% Turk_Varna +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,538969
    23310 iterations.
    
    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 2,514531
    2 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes+Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 2,719287
    3 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 2,767306
    4 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 2,877265
    5 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 2,88036
    6 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje+Turk_Drama @ 2,931827
    7 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Razgrad+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 2,954561
    8 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Dobruja-South+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 2,978608
    9 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,014792
    10 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Dobruja-South+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,021151
    11 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Pomak_Western-Thrace+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,039055
    12 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Turk_Dobruja-South+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,045054
    13 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Pomak_Western-Thrace+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,066996
    14 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,109503
    15 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,115335
    16 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,123321
    17 Turk_Varna+Pomak_Western-Thrace+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,131673
    18 Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Turk_Varna+Bosniak_Bulgaria+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,158902
    19 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes+Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,159477
    20 Turk_Varna+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,164471
    21 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes+Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Western-Thrace+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,182675
    22 Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Bosniak_Bulgaria+Pomak_Western-Thrace+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,19609
    23 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,200888
    24 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,207262
    25 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Bosniak_Bulgaria+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,210314
    26 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,211995
    27 Turk_Varna+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,233114
    28 Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,269782
    29 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes+Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,279668
    30 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Dobruja-South+Turk_Razgrad+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,294761
    31 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Dobruja-South+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje+Turk_Drama @ 3,308825
    32 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Razgrad+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,310618
    33 Turk_Western-Thrace-South+Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,313859
    34 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Torbesh_Macedonia+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,318721
    35 Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-East @ 3,330835
    36 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Eastern-Thrace+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,336791
    37 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Dobruja-South+Pomak_Western-Thrace+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,336823
    38 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje+Turk_Drama @ 3,343096
    39 Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje+Turk_Drama @ 3,358595
    40 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,361194
    82251 iterations.
    
    
    Gaussian method.
    Noise dispersion set to 0,384776
    
    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Turk_Varna @ 4,689951
    2 Turk_Serres @ 4,7929
    3 Turk_Drama @ 5,050243
    4 Turk_Western-Thrace-South @ 5,229739
    5 Turk_Central-Bulgaria @ 5,980306
    6 Turk_N,Macedonia-East @ 6,288542
    7 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes @ 6,644126
    8 Turk_Eastern-Thrace @ 6,663366
    9 Pomak_Serres @ 6,881191
    10 Turk_Dobruja-North @ 7,017159
    11 Turk_Dobruja-South @ 7,105406
    12 Turk_Silistra @ 7,143619
    13 Alevi-Turk_Central-Bulgaria @ 7,174993
    14 Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes @ 7,208595
    15 Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 7,334827
    16 Turk_Ivaylovgrad @ 7,533904
    17 Turk_Razgrad @ 7,897904
    18 Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-East @ 8,467175
    19 Albanian_Macedonia @ 8,716096
    20 Alevi-Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace @ 11,066655
    36 iterations.
    
    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,810987
    2 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna @ 4,011785
    3 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Serres @ 4,145616
    4 Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_Varna @ 4,176214
    5 Turk_Serres+Turk_Varna @ 4,222492
    6 Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_Serres @ 4,28107
    7 Turk_Varna+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain @ 4,311968
    8 Turk_Western-Thrace-South+Pomak_Serres @ 4,43738
    9 Turk_Varna+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-East @ 4,471987
    10 Turk_Western-Thrace-South+Turk_Varna @ 4,498938
    11 Alevi-Turk_Central-Bulgaria+Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace @ 4,504998
    12 Turk_Varna+Pomak_Western-Thrace @ 4,543164
    13 Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_Central-Bulgaria @ 4,557202
    14 Turk_Varna+Turk_Drama @ 4,61564
    15 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Central-Bulgaria @ 4,633709
    16 Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Torbesh_Macedonia @ 4,652953
    17 Turk_Varna+Torbesh_Macedonia @ 4,677665
    18 Turk_Serres+Pomak_Western-Thrace @ 4,678127
    19 Turk_Varna+Turk_Varna @ 4,689951
    20 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes @ 4,71671
    666 iterations.
    
    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Varna +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,429957
    2 50% Turk_Varna +25% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,432989
    3 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Serres +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,432991
    4 50% Turk_Serres +25% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,565124
    5 50% Turk_Varna +25% Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,645529
    6 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Central-Bulgaria +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,674168
    7 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Alevi-Turk_Central-Bulgaria +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,674316
    8 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-East +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,708202
    9 50% Turk_Varna +25% Torbesh_Macedonia +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,713391
    10 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Western-Thrace-South +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,714694
    11 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,720198
    12 50% Turk_Varna +25% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Serres @ 3,786998
    13 50% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje +25% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-East @ 3,799848
    14 50% Turk_Varna +25% Turk_Serres +25% Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain @ 3,805076
    15 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,810987
    16 50% Turk_Varna +25% Turk_Varna +25% Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain @ 3,811471
    17 50% Turk_Varna +25% Alevi-Turk_Central-Bulgaria +25% Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace @ 3,823967
    18 50% Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace +25% Alevi-Turk_Central-Bulgaria +25% Turk_Varna @ 3,829049
    19 50% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje +25% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Varna @ 3,846353
    20 50% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje +25% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Serres @ 3,853423
    23310 iterations.
    
    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,33211
    2 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,429957
    3 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,432989
    4 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,432991
    5 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Serres+Turk_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,565124
    6 Alevi-Turk_Central-Bulgaria+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,56864
    7 Turk_Western-Thrace-South+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,617634
    8 Alevi-Turk_Central-Bulgaria+Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,620385
    9 Turk_Varna+Turk_Varna+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,645529
    10 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,658173
    11 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,6677
    12 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Central-Bulgaria+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,674168
    13 Alevi-Turk_Central-Bulgaria+Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,674316
    14 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,682403
    15 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,68586
    16 Turk_Western-Thrace-South+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,705493
    17 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,708202
    18 Alevi-Turk_Central-Bulgaria+Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,709522
    19 Turk_Varna+Turk_Varna+Torbesh_Macedonia+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,713391
    20 Turk_Western-Thrace-South+Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,714694
    21 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,720198
    22 Turk_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,72035
    23 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_Central-Bulgaria+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,737875
    24 Alevi-Turk_Central-Bulgaria+Turk_Varna+Torbesh_Macedonia+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,767492
    25 Turk_Varna+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,771699
    26 Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,773927
    27 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje+Turk_Drama @ 3,775261
    28 Turk_Western-Thrace-South+Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,781808
    29 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Torbesh_Macedonia+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,782299
    30 Turk_Serres+Turk_Varna+Torbesh_Macedonia+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,784326
    31 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_Varna @ 3,786998
    32 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje+Turk_Drama @ 3,799472
    33 Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,799848
    34 Turk_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_Varna+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain @ 3,805076
    35 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Torbesh_Macedonia+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,807202
    36 Alevi-Turk_Central-Bulgaria+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,808031
    37 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,809009
    38 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,810987
    39 Turk_Varna+Turk_Varna+Turk_Varna+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain @ 3,811471
    40 Alevi-Turk_Central-Bulgaria+Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_Varna+Turk_Varna @ 3,823967
    82251 iterations.

    He insistenly got Pomak, even got more than me. Regarding this oracle and other Gedmatch results, i would say it is certain that Drama side was ethnic Pomak. Your y-DNA also comes from this side.
    On the other hand, i'm almost sure you have Albanian admixture in your Kilkis side but i can't say they were 100% ethnic Albanian. They actually seem very southern shifted for Balkan Turks just like other Macedonia samples. Greek+Albanian+Turkmen admixture is most likely.
    Majority of East Eurasian admixture comes from Karnobat.

    We actually have similar results with your father. But he has Med. input while i have East Eurasian input.

    These are your wegene results:


    Thank you for your analysis brother. I'm also waiting Leto and Bosniensis comments

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    your father has higher than average for Red Sea, maybe he has some Semitic ancestry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonewolfcypriot View Post
    your father has higher than average for Red Sea, maybe he has some Semitic ancestry.
    He has less than average actually
    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
    Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
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    Also i see my father have a high East/South asian percentage. Maybe he have a Romani ancestry in Balkans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    Your father's ancestry was 1/4 Drama, 1/4 Karnobat and 2/4 Kilkis as far as i remember. This was oracle result:

    Code:
    Least-squares method.
    
    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Pomak_Western-Thrace @ 5,189157
    2 Turk_Varna @ 5,453308
    3 Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace @ 5,714361
    4 Turk_Drama @ 6,000778
    5 Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain @ 6,119166
    6 Turk_Razgrad @ 6,12657
    7 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes @ 7,380759
    8 Turk_Western-Thrace-South @ 7,512344
    9 Turk_Dobruja-South @ 8,221801
    10 Pomak_Serres @ 8,364581
    11 Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-East @ 8,376902
    12 Turk_Thessaloniki @ 8,394079
    13 Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes @ 8,804939
    14 Turk_Eastern-Thrace @ 9,084177
    15 Turk_Central-Bulgaria_o @ 9,113408
    16 Turk_Central-Bulgaria @ 9,35713
    17 Turk_Serres @ 9,909914
    18 Turk_Kavala @ 9,938962
    19 Turk_Dobruja-North @ 10,051676
    20 Turk_N,Macedonia-East @ 10,135249
    36 iterations.
    
    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,571903
    2 Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,79957
    3 Turk_Varna+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-East @ 4,026293
    4 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes+Pomak_Western-Thrace @ 4,207056
    5 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-East @ 4,261315
    6 Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-South @ 4,351165
    7 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Eastern-Thrace @ 4,511536
    8 Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Pomak_Western-Thrace @ 4,566226
    9 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes+Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace @ 4,582728
    10 Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes @ 4,588872
    11 Turk_Varna+Pomak_Western-Thrace @ 4,654483
    12 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain @ 4,672479
    13 Bosniak_Bulgaria+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 4,68136
    14 Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain @ 4,731538
    15 Turk_Dobruja-South+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-East @ 4,748728
    16 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes+Pomak_Serres @ 4,764135
    17 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes+Turk_Varna @ 4,776044
    18 Turk_Razgrad+Pomak_Western-Thrace @ 4,857641
    19 Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_Varna @ 4,863586
    20 Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-East @ 4,910879
    666 iterations.
    
    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 2,514531
    2 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 2,719287
    3 50% Turk_Varna +25% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 2,88036
    4 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Varna +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,109503
    5 50% Turk_Varna +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-East +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,164471
    6 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Razgrad +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,310618
    7 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Western-Thrace-South +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,313859
    8 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Eastern-Thrace +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,336791
    9 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje +25% Turk_Drama @ 3,343096
    10 50% Turk_Varna +25% Turk_Dobruja-South +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,36403
    11 50% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje +25% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-East @ 3,39395
    12 50% Turk_Varna +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje +25% Turk_Drama @ 3,408124
    13 50% Turk_Varna +25% Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,41019
    14 50% Turk_Varna +25% Pomak_Western-Thrace +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,449112
    15 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Dobruja-South +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,468123
    16 50% Turk_Varna +25% Turk_Razgrad +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,478368
    17 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje +25% Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-East @ 3,478974
    18 50% Turk_Drama +25% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,480327
    19 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Pomak_Western-Thrace +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,537926
    20 50% Turk_Varna +25% Turk_Varna +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,538969
    23310 iterations.
    
    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 2,514531
    2 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes+Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 2,719287
    3 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 2,767306
    4 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 2,877265
    5 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 2,88036
    6 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje+Turk_Drama @ 2,931827
    7 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Razgrad+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 2,954561
    8 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Dobruja-South+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 2,978608
    9 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,014792
    10 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Dobruja-South+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,021151
    11 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Pomak_Western-Thrace+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,039055
    12 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Turk_Dobruja-South+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,045054
    13 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Pomak_Western-Thrace+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,066996
    14 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,109503
    15 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,115335
    16 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,123321
    17 Turk_Varna+Pomak_Western-Thrace+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,131673
    18 Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Turk_Varna+Bosniak_Bulgaria+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,158902
    19 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes+Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,159477
    20 Turk_Varna+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,164471
    21 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes+Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Western-Thrace+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,182675
    22 Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Bosniak_Bulgaria+Pomak_Western-Thrace+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,19609
    23 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,200888
    24 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,207262
    25 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Bosniak_Bulgaria+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,210314
    26 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,211995
    27 Turk_Varna+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,233114
    28 Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,269782
    29 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes+Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,279668
    30 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Dobruja-South+Turk_Razgrad+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,294761
    31 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Dobruja-South+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje+Turk_Drama @ 3,308825
    32 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Razgrad+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,310618
    33 Turk_Western-Thrace-South+Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,313859
    34 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Torbesh_Macedonia+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,318721
    35 Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-East @ 3,330835
    36 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Eastern-Thrace+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,336791
    37 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Dobruja-South+Pomak_Western-Thrace+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,336823
    38 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje+Turk_Drama @ 3,343096
    39 Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje+Turk_Drama @ 3,358595
    40 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,361194
    82251 iterations.
    
    
    Gaussian method.
    Noise dispersion set to 0,384776
    
    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Turk_Varna @ 4,689951
    2 Turk_Serres @ 4,7929
    3 Turk_Drama @ 5,050243
    4 Turk_Western-Thrace-South @ 5,229739
    5 Turk_Central-Bulgaria @ 5,980306
    6 Turk_N,Macedonia-East @ 6,288542
    7 Turk_Western-Thrace-Rhodopes @ 6,644126
    8 Turk_Eastern-Thrace @ 6,663366
    9 Pomak_Serres @ 6,881191
    10 Turk_Dobruja-North @ 7,017159
    11 Turk_Dobruja-South @ 7,105406
    12 Turk_Silistra @ 7,143619
    13 Alevi-Turk_Central-Bulgaria @ 7,174993
    14 Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes @ 7,208595
    15 Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 7,334827
    16 Turk_Ivaylovgrad @ 7,533904
    17 Turk_Razgrad @ 7,897904
    18 Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-East @ 8,467175
    19 Albanian_Macedonia @ 8,716096
    20 Alevi-Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace @ 11,066655
    36 iterations.
    
    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,810987
    2 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna @ 4,011785
    3 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Serres @ 4,145616
    4 Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_Varna @ 4,176214
    5 Turk_Serres+Turk_Varna @ 4,222492
    6 Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_Serres @ 4,28107
    7 Turk_Varna+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain @ 4,311968
    8 Turk_Western-Thrace-South+Pomak_Serres @ 4,43738
    9 Turk_Varna+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-East @ 4,471987
    10 Turk_Western-Thrace-South+Turk_Varna @ 4,498938
    11 Alevi-Turk_Central-Bulgaria+Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace @ 4,504998
    12 Turk_Varna+Pomak_Western-Thrace @ 4,543164
    13 Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_Central-Bulgaria @ 4,557202
    14 Turk_Varna+Turk_Drama @ 4,61564
    15 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Central-Bulgaria @ 4,633709
    16 Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Torbesh_Macedonia @ 4,652953
    17 Turk_Varna+Torbesh_Macedonia @ 4,677665
    18 Turk_Serres+Pomak_Western-Thrace @ 4,678127
    19 Turk_Varna+Turk_Varna @ 4,689951
    20 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes @ 4,71671
    666 iterations.
    
    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Varna +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,429957
    2 50% Turk_Varna +25% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,432989
    3 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Serres +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,432991
    4 50% Turk_Serres +25% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,565124
    5 50% Turk_Varna +25% Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,645529
    6 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Central-Bulgaria +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,674168
    7 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Alevi-Turk_Central-Bulgaria +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,674316
    8 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-East +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,708202
    9 50% Turk_Varna +25% Torbesh_Macedonia +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,713391
    10 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Western-Thrace-South +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,714694
    11 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,720198
    12 50% Turk_Varna +25% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Serres @ 3,786998
    13 50% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje +25% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-East @ 3,799848
    14 50% Turk_Varna +25% Turk_Serres +25% Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain @ 3,805076
    15 50% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje +25% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,810987
    16 50% Turk_Varna +25% Turk_Varna +25% Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain @ 3,811471
    17 50% Turk_Varna +25% Alevi-Turk_Central-Bulgaria +25% Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace @ 3,823967
    18 50% Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace +25% Alevi-Turk_Central-Bulgaria +25% Turk_Varna @ 3,829049
    19 50% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje +25% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Varna @ 3,846353
    20 50% Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje +25% Pomak_Serres +25% Turk_Serres @ 3,853423
    23310 iterations.
    
    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,33211
    2 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,429957
    3 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,432989
    4 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,432991
    5 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Serres+Turk_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,565124
    6 Alevi-Turk_Central-Bulgaria+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,56864
    7 Turk_Western-Thrace-South+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,617634
    8 Alevi-Turk_Central-Bulgaria+Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,620385
    9 Turk_Varna+Turk_Varna+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,645529
    10 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,658173
    11 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,6677
    12 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Central-Bulgaria+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,674168
    13 Alevi-Turk_Central-Bulgaria+Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,674316
    14 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,682403
    15 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,68586
    16 Turk_Western-Thrace-South+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,705493
    17 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,708202
    18 Alevi-Turk_Central-Bulgaria+Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,709522
    19 Turk_Varna+Turk_Varna+Torbesh_Macedonia+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,713391
    20 Turk_Western-Thrace-South+Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,714694
    21 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,720198
    22 Turk_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,72035
    23 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_Central-Bulgaria+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,737875
    24 Alevi-Turk_Central-Bulgaria+Turk_Varna+Torbesh_Macedonia+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,767492
    25 Turk_Varna+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,771699
    26 Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,773927
    27 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje+Turk_Drama @ 3,775261
    28 Turk_Western-Thrace-South+Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,781808
    29 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Torbesh_Macedonia+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,782299
    30 Turk_Serres+Turk_Varna+Torbesh_Macedonia+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,784326
    31 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_Varna @ 3,786998
    32 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje+Turk_Drama @ 3,799472
    33 Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-East+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,799848
    34 Turk_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_Varna+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain @ 3,805076
    35 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Rhodopes+Torbesh_Macedonia+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,807202
    36 Alevi-Turk_Central-Bulgaria+Pomak_Serres+Turk_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,808031
    37 Pomak_Serres+Turk_Varna+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,809009
    38 Pomak_Serres+Pomak_Serres+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje+Turk_N,Macedonia-Skopje @ 3,810987
    39 Turk_Varna+Turk_Varna+Turk_Varna+Turk_Bulgarian-Thrace-Plain @ 3,811471
    40 Alevi-Turk_Central-Bulgaria+Pomak_Bulgarian-Thrace+Turk_Varna+Turk_Varna @ 3,823967
    82251 iterations.

    He insistenly got Pomak, even got more than me. Regarding this oracle and other Gedmatch results, i would say it is certain that Drama side was ethnic Pomak. Your y-DNA also comes from this side.
    On the other hand, i'm almost sure you have Albanian admixture in your Kilkis side but i can't say they were 100% ethnic Albanian. They actually seem very southern shifted for Balkan Turks just like other Macedonia samples. Greek+Albanian+Turkmen admixture is most likely.
    Majority of East Eurasian admixture comes from Karnobat.

    We actually have similar results with your father. But he has Med. input while i have East Eurasian input.

    These are your wegene results:


    What calculator is this one?

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    What calculator is this one?
    It's Kaspias's Balkan Turk oracle.

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    Eurogenes K13
    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 23.55
    2 Baltic 21.55
    3 West_Med 16.35
    4 West_Asian 15.58
    5 North_Atlantic 13.25
    6 South_Asian 3.11
    7 Siberian 2.17
    8 Red_Sea 1.84
    9 East_Asian 1.56
    10 Amerindian 1.01

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Greek_Thessaly 9.36
    2 Bulgarian 9.58
    3 Romanian 12.05
    4 Central_Greek 13.25
    5 East_Sicilian 14.66
    6 Italian_Abruzzo 15.39
    7 Ashkenazi 15.54
    8 Serbian 16
    9 West_Sicilian 17.07
    10 South_Italian 17.5
    11 Tuscan 18.71
    12 Moldavian 19.1
    13 North_Italian 21.92
    14 Turkish 22.06
    15 Algerian_Jewish 22.25
    16 Sephardic_Jewish 22.59
    17 Croatian 22.65
    18 Italian_Jewish 22.76
    19 Hungarian 23.54
    20 Cyprian 24.86

    Eurogenes K15
    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 21.92
    2 Baltic 15.74
    3 North_Sea 14.85
    4 West_Asian 14.01
    5 West_Med 13.03
    6 Eastern_Euro 7.82
    7 Atlantic 3.86
    8 South_Asian 3.08
    9 Siberian 1.79
    10 Red_Sea 1.76
    11 Southeast_Asian 1.38
    12 Amerindian 0.76

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Greek_Thessaly 9.73
    2 Bulgarian 12.18
    3 Greek 12.97
    4 Romanian 13.06
    5 Ashkenazi 13.51
    6 Central_Greek 14.41
    7 East_Sicilian 15.6
    8 Serbian 16.26
    9 Italian_Abruzzo 16.45
    10 South_Italian 17.59
    11 Moldavian 17.87
    12 Tuscan 18.63
    13 West_Sicilian 18.68
    14 Italian_Jewish 20.96
    15 Hungarian 21.2
    16 Croatian 21.27
    17 Sephardic_Jewish 22.06
    18 Turkish 22.09
    19 North_Italian 22.21
    20 Algerian_Jewish

    MDLP K23b
    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasian 36.87
    2 European_Hunters_Gatherers 22.26
    3 European_Early_Farmers 13.15
    4 Near_East 7.26
    5 South_Central_Asian 6.03
    6 South_Indian 3.22
    7 North_African 2.44
    8 Ancestral_Altaic 2.43
    9 Amerindian 2.01
    10 Melano_Polynesian 1.04
    11 Austronesian 1
    12 East_African 0.94
    13 Tungus-Altaic 0.77
    14 East_Siberian 0.57

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Turk_Balikesir ( ) 6.34
    2 Romanian ( ) 7.05
    3 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) 7.68
    4 Gagauz ( ) 8.18
    5 Turk_Aydin ( ) 8.27
    6 Macedonian ( ) 8.38
    7 Bulgarian ( ) 8.67
    8 Croat_BH ( ) 9.34
    9 Bosnian ( ) 9.67
    10 Montenegrian ( ) 10.01
    11 Serb_BH ( ) 10.04
    12 Croat ( ) 10.29
    13 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 11.3
    14 Turk_Istanbul ( ) 11.34
    15 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 11.54
    16 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 11.64
    17 Greek_Macedonia ( ) 11.75
    18 Romanian_Jew ( ) 12
    19 Serb_Serbia ( ) 12.18
    20 Cretan ( ) 12.44

    Dodecad K12b
    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasus 28.56
    2 North_European 27.24
    3 Atlantic_Med 21.58
    4 Southwest_Asian 8.02
    5 Gedrosia 7.72
    6 Siberian 2.23
    7 Northwest_African 1.38
    8 Southeast_Asian 1.34
    9 South_Asian 1.29
    10 East_Asian 0.63

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 8.95
    2 Romanians (Behar) 10.16
    3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 10.34
    4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 12.72
    5 Greek (Dodecad) 12.94
    6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 16.33
    7 Tuscan (HGDP) 17.69
    8 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 17.76
    9 TSI30 (Metspalu) 18.06
    10 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 18.26
    11 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.49
    12 Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.66
    13 N_Italian (Dodecad) 19.72
    14 North_Italian (HGDP) 22.59
    15 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 23.64
    16 Hungarians (Behar) 23.72
    17 Turkish (Dodecad) 24.79
    18 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 25.27
    19 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 25.42
    20 Turks (Behar) 26.49

    Dodecad K7b
    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic_Baltic 44.21
    2 West_Asian 25.27
    3 Southern 24.56
    4 Siberian 2.74
    5 East_Asian 1.69
    6 South_Asian 1.53

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 9.15
    2 O_Italian (Dodecad) 9.25
    3 Tuscan (HGDP) 9.72
    4 Greek (Dodecad) 10.12
    5 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 10.22
    6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 10.9
    7 Romanians (Behar) 10.97
    8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 11
    9 N_Italian (Dodecad) 14.58
    10 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 15.42
    11 North_Italian (HGDP) 15.92
    12 Sicilian (Dodecad) 16.39
    13 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 17.09
    14 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 17.35
    15 Baleares (1000Genomes) 21.92
    16 Murcia (1000Genomes) 22.63
    17 Extremadura (1000Genomes) 22.83
    18 Canarias (1000Genomes) 22.96
    19 Andalucia (1000Genomes) 22.97
    20 Portuguese (Dodecad) 23.17

    puntDNAL K12 Modern
    # Population Percent
    1 Anatolian_NF 33.02
    2 Caucasus_HG 28.32
    3 European_HG 23.32
    4 Near_East 7.6
    5 Amerindian 2.99
    6 Beringian 1.57
    7 Sub-Saharan 1.14
    8 East_Asian 0.91
    9 Siberian 0.83
    10 South_Asian 0.3

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Bulgarian 8.19
    2 Greek 8.58
    3 Albanian 8.83
    4 Tuscan 11.14
    5 Ashkenazi_Jew 11.81
    6 Turkish_Aydin 12.2
    7 Sicilian_West 13.39
    8 Sicilian_East 13.44
    9 Croatian 14.32
    10 Romanian 15.45
    11 Italian_Bergamo 17.85
    12 Turkish 17.97
    13 Dutch_South 18.69
    14 Belgian 18.93
    15 Hungarian 19.57
    16 Nogai 19.69
    17 French 19.84
    18 German_South 20.21
    19 Utahn_European 20.58
    20 Moroccan_Jew 20.64
    Replied to your message.

    On a side note, nice Hungarian matches. Interesting that puntDNAL K12 Modern has Hungarian for you nearly overlap with Nogai, too.

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