Grenfell Survivors And Relatives Open US Legal Battle

[♥ Lily ♥]

Grenfell survivors and relatives open US legal battle

10th June 2019





US lawyers representing Grenfell survivors and victims' relatives are expected to file a lawsuit

More than 100 Grenfell survivors and relatives are taking legal action in the US against three firms they blame for the fire, the BBC has been told.

The lawsuit will target the cladding maker Arconic, insulation maker Celotex and fridge supplier Whirlpool.

A successful action in the US could cost the firms involved tens of millions of dollars in damages.

Whirlpool and Arconic said they would not comment on the case while official investigations into the fire continued.

Celotex told the BBC's Victoria Derbyshire programme it was "considering its position" in relation to the legal action.

Philadephia lawsuit

The Grenfell fire in June 2017 claimed the lives of 72 people and another 70 were injured.

The first phase of the public inquiry into the disaster heard expert evidence that a small kitchen fire broke out through a uPVC window fitting and ignited material attached to the building.

The new exterior cladding and insulation was installed in 2016 as part of a £10m refit of the tower.

US lawyers representing Grenfell survivors and victims' relatives are expected to file the lawsuit this week in Philadelphia under product liability law, which is meant to hold firms responsible for injuries caused by the goods they sell.

The state of Pennsylvania was reportedly chosen as the legal jurisdiction for the suit because both Arconic, which supplied the combustible ACM panels, and Celotex, which manufactured the insulation, have their US headquarters there.

The Victoria Derbyshire programme has been told a number of Grenfell residents have refused to sign up to the action, saying they believe it could become a "distraction" from the ongoing public inquiry and criminal investigation.

A Grenfell Tower survivor and community leader said: "We respect those that wish to take action in the US, and we respect those that don't wish to."

A claim is also being brought against another US corporation, Whirlpool, which made the fridge-freezer in flat 16, which the public inquiry was told was the likely cause of the fire.

However, other experts have said there is insufficient evidence to say definitively it was to blame.

A civil case for damages has to be started within two years of the fire itself because of the statute of limitations in the US.

At least two large US law firms are involved in the action.

Lawyers believe the disaster could not have taken place in the US because of tighter fire safety rules and a ban on the use of similar cladding on high-rise residential buildings.


Condolence messages written on a wall outside Latymer Community Church in west London

Unlike in the UK, any case would be heard by a jury and could lead to much larger financial awards for both compensation and punitive damages.

The BBC understands lawyers believe it is impossible to estimate the size of any future award but have indicated that, in 2013, a similar lawsuit related to a building collapse that killed seven people, settled for $227m (£178m).

Before any case can reach trial, it is believed to be extremely likely all three companies named in the suit will argue it should not be heard in the US because the fire happened in the UK.

More than 100 survivors or relatives have signed up to the US legal action. But not every Grenfell family has decided to join, with some survivors thought to be uneasy about pursuing a damages claim outside the UK.

One resident told the Victoria Derbyshire programme he did not feel it was "morally right" to take action in the US; another described it as "ugly" and a "distraction" from pursuing Kensington and Chelsea Borough Council and the Tenant Management Organisation, responsible for the tower.

Trial 'within two years'

The cladding system installed in the tower in 2016 was made up of multiple elements. The thin, outer aluminium panel was made by US metals giant Arconic.

A spokesman said the company had no comment on any potential litigation.

"We continue to support the public inquiry and the investigations by the authorities," he said.

Earlier this year, the $15bn (£12bn) sale of Arconic to a US private equity firm broke down. A key issue was said to be the size of any possible financial liabilities linked to the disaster.

In May 2018, a BBC investigation claimed the insulation used, manufactured by Celotex, had not passed required safety tests.

The BBC's Panorama programme was told that the way Celotex tested and sold the product could amount to corporate manslaughter.

The company, owned by French material giant Saint-Gobain, said at the time it could not identify any evidence to support Panorama's allegations.

It told the Victoria Derbyshire programme on Monday it was "considering its position" in relation to the legal action, which it said it learned about on Friday 7 June.

In a statement, it added that it was "continuing to cooperate fully with the public inquiry" and remained "committed to providing all relevant information... to assist it in its work".

"Celotex reaffirms our deepest sympathies to everyone affected by the fire," it continued.


The legal process in the US is expected to take several years

Whirlpool said two separate investigations found no evidence of any fault with the fridge-freezer model that was in flat 16, and confirmed it complied with safety requirements.

"We are committed to assisting the Grenfell Tower inquiry in any way we can as it continues to investigate all the potential origins and causes of the fire and how it spread, a spokesman said.

"While the inquiry is ongoing, it would be inappropriate to comment further at this time," he added.

"Two separate investigations have been carried out - one by the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy (BEIS), and another by Whirlpool," he explained.

"Both investigations independently found no evidence of any fault with this model and confirmed that it fully complied with all safety requirements. These conclusions have also been verified by the government's chief scientific adviser."

He added: "We would like to reassure owners of these products that they are safe and they can continue to use them as normal."

Under US state law, the legal process is expected to take several years. Lawyers say an initial judgement on whether the case can proceed is likely within six months, with a full trial possible approximately 18 months later in a US courtroom.

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[The Lawspeaker]

That would be unfair as their housing association is British. It's them that should be charged.

[♥ Lily ♥]

The fire was started by a faulty fridge-freezer made by Whirlpool.

In 2015 Whirlpool announced that millions of their sold tumble dryers were potentially dangerous: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/D1q...r_in_our_homes

[♥ Lily ♥]

That would be unfair as their housing association is British. It's them that should be charged.

I think the blame is 50/50 between the U.S. companies for producing and selling dangerous products, and also the extremely wealthy council of the Royal Borough of Kensington & Chelsea in the U.K. (an extremely wealthy area full of millionaire residents who pay high local council taxes,) for cutting back on the funding expenses in the cheap housing for migrants by providing them with cheap exterior cladding and for not giving them adequate fire sprinklers and for ignoring the numerous safety concerns of the residents.

Some say it's deliberate corporate manslaughter to remove the ugly tower block from the area, as the extremely wealthy residents living in the affluent area of the Royal Borough of Chelsea & Kensington didn't want to see an ugly high-rise tower block in their beautiful neighbourhood, nor wished to live amongst the migrants who were burned to death in the tower.

It is a classic case of snobbery and excessive capitalistic greed.

Whatever people think about mass and unlimited immigration, I don't think the migrants deserved to be cruelly and inhumanely burned to death like that. It's a very horrific way to die.

[The Lawspeaker]

I think the blame is 50/50 between the companies dangerous products and the local council.

I think they should go after the council instead as it is the council that bought this mess and who put them in harms way. The company merely made this dangerous material and made money off selling it. It's the council that should have done its homework before spending public money and putting people at risk.

[♥ Lily ♥]

I think they should go after the council instead as it is the council that bought this mess and who put them in harms way. The company merely made this dangerous material and made money off selling it. It's the council that should have done its homework before spending public money and putting people at risk.

That cladding from the U.S. is illegal to use in Europe, so that would be the contractors fault or the local council. They did it to cut back on spending a bit more public money on a safer cladding for the mostly migrant residents in the tower block. The building was a death-trap. Whirlpool may still be responsible for the faulty fridge - providing there's no wear or tear to it.

[♥ Lily ♥]

That would be unfair as their housing association is British. It's them that should be charged.

I suspect that most of the people who work at the staff office for K&C council won't be English, since this is London. The builders and contractors who built Grenfell in London were probably foreign workers too.

[The Lawspeaker]

That cladding from the U.S. is illegal to use in Europe, so that would be the contractors fault or the local council. They did it to cut back on spending a bit more public money on a safer cladding for the mostly migrant residents in the tower block. The building was a death-trap. Whirlpool may still be responsible for the faulty fridge - providing there's no wear or tear to it.

Then the fault rests entirely with the council as they would have needed to approve this cladding (which they did - violating the law). It's time for heads on spikes. As for Whirlpool ? Were they aware of the problem and did they call for a call-back prior to the disaster ? If so - then those people in the flat are responsible since they did not give heed to the call-back. If the company knew but did nothing, then they are responsible.

I suspect that most of the people who work at the staff office for K&C council won't be English, since this is London. The builders and contractors who built Grenfell in London were probably foreign workers too.

Then this is where heads should be rolling. Of course, also with the big boss in command of that lot. His head needs to roll too.