Can a man be submissive in a relationship?

[Lazio]

Most men somewhat are.

This was a trend that started in Vitorian Era and reached its peak in the 40s and 50s.

A woman always has her ways to get her will in one way or another

Only if you, as a man, are weak and subserviant.
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I'm not talking about oppressing or being a tyrant... but a man MUST lead (also he must have the final word on things related to the future of the family (and take responsability after the results of decisions as well)) - otherwise both sides will be unhappy.

[Moje ime]

but a man MUST lead (also he must have the final word on things related to the future of the family (and take responsability after the results of decisions as well)) - otherwise both sides will be unhappy.

And what if man is lazy or weak and woman is more efficient and smart to begin and finish all jobs related to family?
Eg. there is a broken fence in yard, man saying for days he is going to fix it but he never does.
Woman lose her patience and do it by herself (a real life example).
Now you claim that kind of man has to "lead"?

[Pansarkamrat]

Only if he is beta.

[Ayetooey]

[Dandelion]

I'm not talking about oppressing or being a tyrant... but a man MUST lead (also he must have the final word on things related to the future of the family (and take responsability after the results of decisions as well)) - otherwise both sides will be unhappy.

But the dominant man still makes sure her needs are met. Even if it's his way, it's also her way indirectly.

[Lazio]

And what if man is lazy or weak and woman is more efficient and smart to begin and finish all jobs related to family?
Eg. there is a broken fence in yard, man saying for days he is going to fix it but he never does.
Woman lose her patience and do it by herself (a real life example).
Now you claim that kind of man has to "lead"?

Like I told before, a man MUST lead - OR ELSE: both will not be trully happy about the situation of the relationship.

[Papastratosels26]

No.

[Moje ime]

Like I told before, a man MUST lead - OR ELSE: both will not be trully happy about the situation of the relationship.

But not all men are leaders, that is the fact. And there are some women who are leaders. So obviously nature had plans for both of them to find each other.

[Ülev]

But not all men are leaders, that is the fact. And there are some women who are leaders. So obviously nature had plans for both of them to find each other.

leaders with leaders, I agree

[Lazio]

But the dominant man still makes sure her needs are met. Even if it's his way, it's also her way indirectly.

Her needs are not her wishes... just like children, a good man/father provides their needs (and sometimes, here or there, (just to see them glad) he gives some unexpected gift to them)... but a dominant man never bends over to childdish wishes (children can ask too much because they have no maturity... and some women like to play as if they don't have maturity as well, so they push the idea in their men's heads that they, as good husbands, have to afford for the "material girl" lifestyle to their women - there is when the line needs to be drawn, and only sober dominant men can do that, the subserviant ones will feel guilty because of dirty mental games that some women like to play).