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Thread: What percentage of Europeans belongs to paleolithic European (pre-IE) haplogroups?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayetooey View Post
    Least paleolithic parts of Europe in terms of Y dna are west europe (Iberia, Britain, Ireland etc), Italy and Kosovo/Albania.

    Ireland has only 7% I1/I2 combined for example; they are almost entirely R1. Kosovo is only 8% I1/I2.
    Cool, it proves that brunns are R1b and that brunns and hallstatt nordids are (almost) one and the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellbeaking View Post
    In that case None according to this






    edit: ok nvm he edited it, he means haplomemes
    Sorry about the confusion. I edited the OP post and title.

    What was used for comparison in that chart? it looks interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayetooey View Post
    Britain isn't as low as I thought actually; there's a lot of I1 due to Saxons, vikings etc. Portugal has only 3% I1/I2 though which is pretty low.
    A lot of the I1 and I2 who came over with the Vikings or Normans existed in Northern England and Mid-Southern Scotland, the ones in Scotland have probably largely been depopulated though into Canada, Australia and the U.S.A.
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    Celt + Frank (4.869)
    Viking Icelandic + Frank (5.463)
    Viking Icelandic + Celt (5.545)
    Celt + Saxon (5.789)
    Viking Danish + Celt (6.283)
    Celt (6.539)
    Frank (10.13)
    Viking Icelandic (10.34)
    Viking Danish (10.4)
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    Celt + Belgae (4.016)
    Viking Danish + Belgae (5.555)
    Belgae + Frank (5.797)
    Celt + Frank (6.031)
    Celt (6.297)
    Viking Danish + Celt (6.441)
    Belgae (8.662)
    Viking Danish (8.925)
    Frank (9.409)
    Saxon (10.83)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean View Post
    A lot of the I1 and I2 who came over with the Vikings or Normans existed in Northern England and Mid-Southern Scotland, the ones in Scotland have probably largely been depopulated though into Canada, Australia and the U.S.A.
    There'll be a lot of I1 in East Anglia and Yorkshire specifically; since these are the most anglo-saxon areas of England. Someone with same surname as my English grandfather from same region is tested I1; so I may be I from both grandfathers .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayetooey View Post
    There'll be a lot of I1 in East Anglia and Yorkshire specifically; since these are the most anglo-saxon areas of England. Someone with same surname as my English grandfather from same region is tested I1; so I may be I from both grandfathers .
    York was a mixed Dane/Saxon settlement I think a lot of the Danes just became Normans and moved into Scotland though.
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    Viking Icelandic + Frank (5.463)
    Viking Icelandic + Celt (5.545)
    Celt + Saxon (5.789)
    Viking Danish + Celt (6.283)
    Celt (6.539)
    Frank (10.13)
    Viking Icelandic (10.34)
    Viking Danish (10.4)
    Saxon (10.79)

    kit 2
    Celt + Belgae (4.016)
    Viking Danish + Belgae (5.555)
    Belgae + Frank (5.797)
    Celt + Frank (6.031)
    Celt (6.297)
    Viking Danish + Celt (6.441)
    Belgae (8.662)
    Viking Danish (8.925)
    Frank (9.409)
    Saxon (10.83)

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    Romania has strong I2 admixture, higher than Bulgaria, Macedonia or Montenegro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jana View Post
    Romania has strong I2 admixture, higher than Bulgaria, Macedonia or Montenegro.
    Higher than Bulgaria and Macedonia definitely. With Montenegro there's no reliable studies from what I can see; I added up results for Zeta on the dna project a while back and I2 was 45% if I can recall. But slavicised Albanians in Brda and Sandzak who will end up in many of the more official studies will bring average down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolsonaro View Post
    Cool, it proves that brunns are R1b and that brunns and hallstatt nordids are (almost) one and the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jana View Post
    Romania has strong I2 admixture, higher than Bulgaria, Macedonia or Montenegro.
    On Eupedia is written 29.5% I2 for Montenegro, and 28% for Romania.

    Statistic for Montenegro is based on 404 randomly taken samples from Podgorica. Among these samples there was some Albanians, Muslims/Bosniaks and Gypsies. Orthodoxes of Montenegro has for few % higher I2 than 30%, I am prrety sure in this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    According to Eupedia Montenegro has 29.5% I2 and Romania 28%.

    Statistic for Montenegro is based on 404 randomly taken samples from Podgorica. Among these samples there was some Albanians, Muslims and Gypsies. Orthodoxes of Montenegro has for few % higher I2 than 30%, I am prrety sure in this.
    Statistics for Zeta. 108 samples.

    I2=45%
    J2=19%
    E-v13=14%
    R1a=11%
    R1b=8%
    G2a=2%
    I1=1%

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