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    Why do you guys hate CCP so much? It expelled the foreigners from China. Kuanmitang was just a very corrupt and pro west party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catarinense1998 View Post
    Why do you guys hate CCP so much? It expelled the foreigners from China. Kuanmitang was just a very corrupt and pro west party.
    Maybe because they killed around 70 million Chinese and are fucking up the whole planet ? Why do you have positive feelings towards Reds ? Are you a Red yourself ?



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    Chris and Shelley live stream for a third time on Sunday—this time, overlooking the main highway through central Hong Kong, currently occupied by thousands of demonstrators.



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    Maybe because they killed around 70 million Chinese and are fucking up the whole planet ? Why do you have positive feelings towards Reds ? Are you a Red yourself ?
    I'm not comunist, instead I hate them. But, a lot of comunists parties were very nationalist and anti-colonial powers (see Ho Chi Min, Mao Tse Tung, Fidel and Guevara). We can't deny what they did to their countries. Mao and Fidel improved a lot the healthy system of their countries, and basically they decreased the illiteracy. Yes, they are bad dictators, but they had ups and downs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catarinense1998 View Post
    I'm not comunist, instead I hate them. But, a lot of comunists parties were very nationalist and anti-colonial powers (see Ho Chi Min, Mao Tse Tung, Fidel and Guevara). We can't deny what they did to their countries. Mao and Fidel improved a lot the healthy system of their countries, and basically they decreased the illiteracy. Yes, they are bad dictators, but they had ups and downs.
    They are phoney nationalists: they conflate the party with the country. Mao and Fidel improved nothing. They have the death rate to prove it. The Soviets and East Germans did the same. They didn't give a toss about the country. In fact: the CCP are so "nationalist" that they destroyed much of Ancient Chinese culture - entire collections of art works, thousands of temples and monuments were deliberately destroyed. Ancient philosophy and even the alphabet wiped out. Do you want to see the real China ? Go to Taiwan.



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    They are phoney nationalists: they conflate the party with the country. Mao and Fidel improved nothing. They have the death rate to prove it. The Soviets and East Germans did the same. They didn't give a toss about the country.
    Everybody needs to face the death, early or later. I have sure if you compare the cuban society before comunist party (Batista's dictatorship) and after (Catro's family), you will get your anwers. Again, I hate them, I strongly dislike burocratic states, and Cultural Revolution was one of the worst things that happened to China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catarinense1998 View Post
    Everybody needs to face the death, early or later. I have sure if you compare the cuban society before comunist party (Batista's dictatorship) and after (Catro's family), you will get your anwers. Again, I hate them, I strongly dislike burocratic states, and Cultural Revolution was one of the worst things that happened to China.
    Which was deliberately carried out by the "nationalist" CCP. Don't forget that: up in Taiwan, the culture is still very much intact.



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    Which was deliberately carried out by the "nationalist" CCP. Don't forget that: up in Taiwan, the culture is still very much intact.
    It was Mao trying to get back the CCP's power to himself. It was just a minority inside CCP. As far as I know, Confucianism, Taoism, Buddhism are quite common among chinese on nowadays. Obviously, urban teenagers tend to be more materialists like shit western societies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catarinense1998 View Post
    It was Mao trying to get back the CCP's power to himself. It was just a minority inside CCP. As far as I know, Confucianism, Taoism, Buddhism are quite common among chinese on nowadays. Obviously, urban teenagers tend to be more materialists like shit western societies.
    They aren't so common at all: if you were to watch septentza or the like, you would see that there are very few religious places left in China and if they pray at all, it's just for money. The CCP completely destroyed the old culture. And no: Mao was the CCP, the CCP was Mao. His image is still hanging over the Forbidden City btw.



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    They aren't so common at all: if you were to watch septentza or the like, you would see that there are very few religious places left in China and if they pray at all, it's just for money. The CCP completely destroyed the old culture. And no: Mao was the CCP, the CCP was Mao. His image is still hanging over the Forbidden City btw.
    Xi Jingping is a not dumb dude, and he knows the importance of Mao's legacy to chinese people - specially old ones. CCP was not only Mao. Liu Shaoqi, Deng Xiaoping and others didn't agree with Mao. It is a pity that chinese did lost their culture due to CCP's politics. Just read that jornalist text about Neo-Maoist chinese being atacked by chinese government in 2012:

    Source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...website-utopia

    "China shuts down Maoist website Utopia

    Chinese officials have closed a leading neo-Maoist website for a month because it posted sensitive political content, according to its founders.

    At least one other leftist site was also suspended.

    "The move comes amid the country's most serious political crisis in two decades, after the dismissal of Chongqing party secretary Bo Xilai, who promoted "red culture" and was championed by the Utopia website. Debates between left and right are heating up ahead of this autumn's transition of power to a new generation of leaders.

    Utopia was closed for a few days immediately after Bo's sacking last month, reopening after articles about Chongqing were removed."

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