Riots against Mainland China

[The Lawspeaker]

Xi Jingping is a not dumb dude, and he knows the importance of Mao's legacy to chinese people - specially old ones. CCP was not only Mao. Liu Shaoqi, Deng Xiaoping and others didn't agree with Mao. It is a pity that chinese did lost their culture due to CCP's politics. Just read that jornalist text about Neo-Maoist chinese being atacked by chinese government in 2012:

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...website-utopia

"China shuts down Maoist website Utopia

Chinese officials have closed a leading neo-Maoist website for a month because it posted sensitive political content, according to its founders.

At least one other leftist site was also suspended.

"The move comes amid the country's most serious political crisis in two decades, after the dismissal of Chongqing party secretary Bo Xilai, who promoted "red culture" and was championed by the Utopia website. Debates between left and right are heating up ahead of this autumn's transition of power to a new generation of leaders.

Utopia was closed for a few days immediately after Bo's sacking last month, reopening after articles about Chongqing were removed."

That was in 2012. China's leadership has gotten more orthodox since.

[1R0N M4N XL]

2 million protesters , while there is only 7.2 million living in hong kong.

[1R0N M4N XL]

Why do you guys hate CCP so much? It expelled the foreigners from China. Kuanmitang was just a very corrupt and pro west party.

I'll keep it short : the long term ambition of the CCP is to replace the united states & have every single neighboring countries like S.korea, Japan, Philippines, Vietnam, indonesia, australia, india as tributary states. they want to bring China back to its golden emperor days where everyone bow down in submission and give gifts to chinese emperors.

thats just the small tip of iceburg...

[The Lawspeaker]

Hong Kong's economy is at risk from the extradition bill that brought 2 million people to the streets to protest. Hong Kong's rich and elite are getting their money out of the city as fears that Hong Kong's rule of law is under attack and their money is no longer safe in Hong Kong as Beijing's reach extends deep into Hong Kong. I sat down with Edward Chin, Hedge Fund manager, and founder of 2047 HK Monitor. https://www.facebook.com/2047HKMonitor

Umbrella Movement leader Joshua Wong has been released from prison at the perfect time—just days after a 2 million person strong Hong Kong protest. Hong Kong Chief Executive Carrie Lam isn't backing down on the extradition bill or stepping down. And everyone wants to know, what's next?

[Mens-Sarda]

I'm not comunist, instead I hate them. But, a lot of comunists parties were very nationalist and anti-colonial powers (see Ho Chi Min, Mao Tse Tung, Fidel and Guevara). We can't deny what they did to their countries. Mao and Fidel improved a lot the healthy system of their countries, and basically they decreased the illiteracy. Yes, they are bad dictators, but they had ups and downs.

Mao alone caused the death of 45 millions of Chinese when he ordered to kill all birds because they eat the harvest. The following years, without birds to prey them, the population of locusts exploded, and billions of them swarmed over China eating everything and causing the Great Famine, which was kept secret by the communist government. This thing has been discovered 30 years later when the Chinese archives were declassified.

[Catarinense1998]

Mao alone caused the death of 45 millions of Chinese when he ordered to kill all birds because they eat the harvest. The following years, without birds to prey them, the population of locusts exploded, and billions of them swarmed over China eating everything and causing the Great Famine, which was kept secret by the communist government. This thing has been discovered 30 years later when the Chinese archives were declassified.

I know what Mao did, and I'm not defending him. Indeed, CCP loves to hide some disgusting facts. My point is, Mao is like any politician - he had up and downs. Obviously, more downs than ups. But, if you analyze the illiteracy rate before and in Maoist China, you will realize that Mao did great things too. We are anti comunists, so we will always tend to catch the bad things about commies. Mao also got to kick out the foreigners. Obviously, in the war against Japan, it was Kuanmitang that fought hardest there. I wonder how chinese books talk about this on nowadays.

[Catarinense1998]

That was in 2012. China's leadership has gotten more orthodox since.

Indeed. But, chinese market socialism can't be considered marxist anymore. It is too revisionist. Marx did never talk about a burocratic states too.

[The Lawspeaker]

Indeed. But, chinese market socialism can't be considered marxist anymore. It is too revisionist. Marx did never talk about a burocratic states too.

That's the hypocrisy of socialism for you: the ideology is something to hide behind and window dressing.

[The Lawspeaker]

Chris, Shelley, and eventually Matt talk about the latest developments as the #HongKong chief executive rejects calls to step down. Also, the results of a tribunal on China’s alleged organ harvesting. Then we answer fan questions live.

[Lazio]

Taiwan and Hong Kong should be ruled by mainland China. Those territories belong to China.

LOL
You're the guy that go around saying "hey m'dude, Brazil should be broken in little pieces, southern-brazilians are not brazilians"
yet, you feel like you have a word saying that Taiwan and Hong Kong belongs to China?

Why do you guys hate CCP so much? It expelled the foreigners from China.

LOL
"it, like, expelled foreigners guys, so the inner people of the party could be hangmans and torturers without foreign aid/intervention."

I'm not comunist, instead I hate them.

Yeaaaahhhh, riiiight!

Everybody needs to face the death, early or later.

Amazing how you're prompt to look out for cheap excuses. You're clearly discussing with your own ego here, not with reason.

CCP loves to hide some disgusting facts.

And how many of them we don't even know they hide?!

My point is, Mao is like any politician - he had up and downs. Obviously, more downs than ups.

This is equal to say
"My point is, Ted Bundy is like any other person - he had upp and downs. Obviously, more downs than ups when he went around raping-killing-raping corpses, but you know... we hate serial killers, that's why we can't see how much sociable he was and how much of a nice warm company in conversation he was. You should check the parties before Ted Bundy arraive, it was so boring, but after he came in, it was all-fun".

But, if you analyze the illiteracy rate before and in Maoist China, you will realize that Mao did great things too.

No, things like education tends to get better anyway, unless if the leader is really trying to do the opposite, but some things just improves with time, that's the expected thing to happen anyway - so if the former government would be in China until today you can bet the "illiteracy rates" would change for better as well.

We are anti comunists, so we will always tend to catch the bad things about commies. Mao also got to kick out the foreigners.

"Yeeahh duude, because Mao was an ego maniac dictator, that was responsible for intellectual opression, the torture-killing and persecution of MILLIONS (of his own people btw), not even to say that there is people that say that he was a pedophile... but yeah dude, he kicked out the foreigners, so nice of him. We are the stupid ones that can't see the very nice things he did, so bad of our part"