Classify Greek man from Chania

[wvwvw]

Kurds mostly but Assyrians too since you guys are Mesopotamians but i dont have enough knowledge about you guys

You would fit well in Levant and among Assyrians.

[archangel]

Except average Turk look nothing similar to North Eurasian. Perhaps you should migrate to Tataristan, or Turkistan to live your dream as a North Eurasian.

I act like Greeks look Greek, and Turks look Turk.

i can be younger brother of Tatar tennis player Marat Safin lol, its Yamnaya sista.

[Kutlu]

You would fit well in Levant and among Assyrians.

thats cool sorry i dont have any insecurity about my appearance

[21993]

Iranid

[Hellenas]

Relax man. Lol. Why do you talk like this? You hate Nordicists, but you mimic them and their abrasive superiority complex. How come? .

Ha, ha, ha! That's what I call Hypocrisy! You have called in this forum so far Greeks as wogs that identified in Australia as Near Easterners and Middle Easterners, that they are similar looking to Levantintes and that they are olive skinned(all these of course are lies!) and you say I mimic Nordicist for refuting wogifiers and levantinizers/middle easternizer like you? What a hypocrite Orientalicist! You tell me to relax and stop talking like that when you repeatedly troll my people, unbelievable!

Near Easterners also range in colour. I'm not going to waste my time with photos.

THE DNA OF THE INHABITANTS OF GREECE (by Aristotle University of Thessaloniki):

• The Neolithic human populations were moved from Europe to the Near East9. It is estimated that a 5% -20% of mitochondrial DNA sequences of the present inhabitants of the Near East has a European origin. Prospective population for this flow mitochondrial DNA are the Greeks and Phrygians.

At First read that.

There is not any overlap between Greeks and Levantines(Syrians, Lebanese, Jordanians etc), Greeks do not have much Middle Eastern admixture, only 6-7%, insignificant. There is a small similarity between mostly Europeans in ancestry Levantines and Greeks though.

THE DNA OF THE INHABITANTS OF GREECE (by Aristotle University of Thessaloniki):

• The Neolithic human populations were moved from Europe to the Near East9. It is estimated that a 5% -20% of mitochondrial DNA sequences of the present inhabitants of the Near East has a European origin. Prospective population for this flow mitochondrial DNA are the Greeks and Phrygians.


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By Fyletika blog


IN LEBANON THERE IS THE ARMENOID TYPE(NOT MEDITERRANEAN), THE ARABID(MIDDLE EASTERN VERSION OF MEDITERRANEAN) AND THE SO CALLED EASTERN MEDITERRANEAN(IN MOST CASES, THE MIDDLE EASTERN IRANID TYPE) AND THERE ALSO ALPINES(ASIATIC ALPINES).

THERE ARE PEOPLE LIVING IN LEBANON WHO PASS AS EUROPEANS AND THE MEDITERRANEANS ALSO INCLUDE, FOR SURE, DESCENDANTS OF GREEKS FROM THE HELLENISTIC PERIOD.

THE DUTCH ANTHROPOLOGIST ARIENS KAPPERS IN HIS STUDY " Contributions to the Anthropology of the Near-East II" GIVES EVIDENCES OF THE CEPHALIC INDEX OF LEBANESE, WHICH IS NEAR 85, MEANING MOST OF THEM ARE ARMENOIDS BUT PEOPLE OF THE DESERT ARE DOLICHOCEPHALS(MOSTLY ARABIDS AND IRANIDS).


Στην χώρα του Λιβάνου όπου δραστηριοποιείται κυρίως η Χεζμπολάχ,...
συναντάται ο Αρμενοειδής, ο Αραβικός και ο λεγόμενος Ανατολικός Μεσογειακός τύπος, ενώ υπάρχουν και λίγοι Αλπικοί. Αρμενοειδείς και Αλπικοί είναι βραχυκέφαλοι, ενώ Αραβικοί και Ανατολικοί Μεσογειακοί είναι δολιχοκέφαλοι. Μη ξεχνάμε ότι στον Λίβανο αρκετοί κάτοικοι περνούν για Ευρωπαίοι και οι Μεσογειακοί περιλαμβάνουν σίγουρα και απογόνους Ελλήνων από τα Ελληνιστικά χρόνια.

Ο Ολλανδός ανθρωπολόγος Ariens Kappers στη μελέτη του "Kappers A. - Contributions to the Anthropology of the Near-East II" δίνει στοιχεία από μετρήσεις κεφαλικού δείκτη των κατοίκων του Λιβάνου και της περιοχής κοντά στη Συρία. Ο κεφαλικός δείκτης είναι πολύ μεγάλος, κοντά στο 85, πράγμα που σημαίνει ότι στον Λίβανο πλειοψηφούν οι Αρμενοειδείς. Όμως η κατάσταση είναι ανισοκατανεμημένη, καθώς οι κάτοικοι της ερήμου, μακριά από τα αστικά κέντρα, είναι δολιχοκέφαλοι, όπως φαίνεται στο παρακάτω γράφημα.

http://fyletika.blogspot.com/2014/02/blog-post_14.html

Contributions to the Anthropology of the Near~East. 11. The spread of brachycephalic races.
http://www.dwc.knaw.nl/DL/publications/PU00015950.pdf


MARONITES AND DRUZE PEOPLE OF LEBANON AND WESTERN COASTAL AREA OF SYRIA HAVE A CEPHALIC INDEX OF 84,96 AND 84,88 WHICH SHOWS BRACHYCEPHALY, SO MOST ARE ARMENOIDS AND AS IT APPEARS THERE ARE SOME ALPINES(ASIATIC ALPINES) WHILE IRANIDS ARE FEW.

AT THE MEDITERRAEAN COASTS OF MIDDLE EAST THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO RESEMBLE THE ARABID TYPE, WITHOUT BEING SO STRONGLY ARABID AS THOSE OF THE ARABIAN PENINSULA. THEY HAVE LIGHTER SKIN COLOR, A MORE MEDITERRANEAN EYE AREA, LEPTOPROSOPY, DOLICHOCEPHALY AND WAVY HAIRS. SOME ANTHROPOLOGISTS CLASSIFIED THEM AS "EAST MEDS" WHILE OTHERS AS ARABIDS. WE REFER TO THEM HERE AS "ORIENTALIDS", WHILE WHEN THEY DON'T REFERRED SEPARATELY WE CONSIDER THEM AS PART OF THE ARABIDS.

Οι Μαρωνίτες και οι Δρούζοι, που κατοικούν στον Λίβανο και στην δυτική παραλιακή περιοχή της Συρίας αντίστοιχα, έχουν μέτριο μέσο ανάστημα, κεφαλικό δείκτη 84,96 και 84,88 αντίστοιχα που δείχνει βραχυκεφαλία, υψηλότερο ρινικό δείκτη και μεσοπροσωπία. Χρώμα μαλλιών σκούρο και χρώμα ματιών σε σημαντικά ποσοστά ενδιάμεσο ή ανοικτό. Συνεπώς οι περισσότεροι είναι Αρμενοειδείς, ενώ φαίνεται να υπάρχουν και κάποιοι Αλπικοί, με τους Ιρανικούς να είναι λίγοι. Παρόμοια είναι τα δεδομένα και για τους τους κατοίκους της ορεινής περιοχής Nusairiyeh, που βρίσκεται και αυτή στην δυτική παραλιακή ζώνη της Συρίας.

Στα Μεσογειακά παράλια της Μέσης Ανατολής, υπάρχουν κάτοικοι που τείνουν προς τον Αραβικό τύπο, χωρίς όμως τα έντονα στοιχεία που βρίσκουμε στην Αραβική χερσόνησο. Έχουν πιο ανοιχτό χρώμα δέρματος, πιο "Μεσογειακή" περιοχή ματιών, λεπτοπροσωπία, δολιχοκεφαλία, κυματιστά μαλλιά, διατηρώντας την μακριά οστεώδη κυρτή μύτη. Κάποιοι ανθρωπολόγοι τους ενέταξαν στους East Med, άλλοι στους Arabid. Τους έχουμε αναφέρει εδώ ως Orientalid. Όταν δεν αναφέρονται ξεχωριστά, τους θεωρούμε ως μέρος των Arabid.

http://fyletika.blogspot.com/2016/05/blog-post_12.html


BRIEFLY, IN LEBANON THERE ARE ARMENOIDS, IRANIDS AND SOME EUROPEAN ELEMENTS. ARMENOIDS AND THOSE WHO ARE OF EUROPEAN ORIGIN LIVE TOWARDS THE COAST AND IN THE INTERIOR OF THE COUNTRY THE IRANIDS.

Επιγραμματικά, στον Λίβανο κατοικούν Αρμενοειδείς, Ιρανικοί και κάποια Ευρωπαϊκά στοιχεία. Οι Αρμενοειδείς και οι όποιοι απόγονοι των Ευρωπαίων ζουν προς τα παράλια, ενώ στα ενδότερα αυξάνονται οι Ιρανικοί.

http://fyletika.blogspot.com/2015/12/blog-post_12.html


ACCORDING TO BERTIL LUNDMAN MEDES, PERSIANS AND SYRIANS BELONGED TO THE IRANIAN TYPE(HE REFERS TO THIS TYPE AS "EAST MED") WITH SOME ARMENOID ELEMENTS.

Στη συνέχεια ο συγγραφέας θεωρεί ότι λαοί όπως Μήδες, Πέρσες και αυτοί της Συρίας, ανήκαν στον Ιρανικό τύπο (τον αναφέρει ως East Mediterranean), με κάποια Αρμενοειδή στοιχεία.

https://fyletika.blogspot.com/2016/07/lundman_11.html



Mainland Greeks and Aegean islanders are not Arabids, Iranids, Armenoids, Asiatic Alpines as Lebanese and other West Asians are.

Greeks being similar to Levantine people.... lol!

Rarely Near Easterners/Levantines are white skinned or Euro Meds and when they are it is due to migrations from Greece(mostly by Aegean Island for the Levant).

He is a single European. I am only "Levantizing" him because he passes as one of us 100% (no, not Yemeni or Saudi Arabian, but a
Levantine or a Maslawi Arab in the north). Please calm down. Don't be so territorial.

I told you, most Meds from Greece, Italy and Iberia tanned and with a beard could pass even for Saudi Arabians, this does not makes them mixed. It's because before the migration of Meds in Europe from North Africa, what is now Arabid, Iranid and Euro-Med was once one single race, that in the fertile crescent separated, others moved in the Middle East, others in the Arabian peninsula and others in Europe through Anatolia.

I didn't say he looks Paki. Come on dude.

Others said he looks Arab!

Why base the Near East on stereotypical looking Arabs? West Asia is home to Armenians, Assyrians, Kurds, Persians, Azeris, Druze, Jews, etc and etc. Not all of them are Arabs. Of course, they are the majority and the media would usually show them. Should I use Dutch examples and characterise Europe by Dutch people?

I posted Arabs because some poster said he looks Arab.

How do you know that he'a a full Greek though? You're a smart man and you know your ethnicity well. So you might be cognisant about people looking "off".

Because he is an average Cretan, he doesn't looks off in Crete by any mean.


That's how average Cretans looks like.

You have never visited Crete obviously, that's the average. That's a frequent phenotype in Spain too.

Average






This phenotype can also be found in Athens(Greece's capital), where most of the Greek population lives.

Hell, I know a few Greek-Egyptian mixes in here. Maybe he has a Arab or a Turkish side in his family. You'll never know.

That's orientalocentrism. You don't have any evidence this average Cretan has any Egyptian, Arab or Turkish ancestry. You just hope he has!

All the Greeks you posted here look 100% Greek and as well as full blown European.

He looks like the average Cretans I posted.

White skinned Middle Easterners may look European, but they will still pass in the Near East more.

Nope, they pass in all over South Europe!

Remember that, like Europe, the Middle East can have a variety of different skin tones and phenotypes as well.

White skin color is more than rare in the Middle East.

Posting photos of protesting Arab Muslims doesn't mean all West Asians look like that.

Most look like that!

You're talking about a region that is as large as India, but then you're only showcasing Sri Lanka (if you get my point).

No Mr Orientalicist and whitewasher of the Near East, rarely Near Easterners like Levantines are white skinned and Euro/South-East Euro looking! Anthropological data already posted!

Why post that Greek guy's photo? He looks 100% European, and he'd barely pass in the Middle East.

He is not a Greek, he is Scott adkins, a Brit with some Spanish roots. Naturally he looks West European with some Nordic features, especially nose and somehow the facial structure, but bearded and with a tan he can easily pass in the Middle East, as most Meds can.








In last photos he could pass for a Paki.

And nobody said he'll pass in the Middle East. But you must understand why the guy in OP looks pretty eastern. To me, I'm sorry, they look very different. This fighter looks European to the core, but the guy in OP looks like he can be a Greek/[insert Near Eastern ethnicity] mix. Funny, I'm actually implying that Greeks are generally whiter and more European looking, but you're proclaiming that a near eastern looking Greek is 100% European looking (and many people on this thread also assert how orientalid he looks). Kinda ironic, no?

Posters here are coming from Northern Europe or from Central Europe(we already talked about Northtardism), the 1-2 Greeks who said he looks exotic are Mainland Greeks and are Westrnizers of Greeks who always talk about Atlanto-whatever Greeks and want to disconnect themselves from South-East European looks as well as from Aegean Islander looks.

The answer on this has been given by Greek Anthropologists.

1. Geographical distribution of anthropological traits in Crete shows largely uniformity across the island. The Cretans belong in their absolute majority to the Aegean type of the eastmediterranean branch of the great Europaeoid race. The spread of this type in the Aegean associated with the prosoasiatic type(Near Eastern) from which it has diversified over several thousand years. It is native type of the region

2. The varieties that make up the anthropological type of Crete stand out, with great enough accuracy, from the anthropological types of northern Africa and, secondly, the types of the Middle East. They are closer to the type of the Aegean basin, generally, which extends to Thrace and Southern Bulgaria, in western Asia Minor and parts of the Black Sea.

Aris Poulianos, "The descend of Cretans", page 127, year 1971.

Keep that:

The spread of this type in the Aegean associated with the prosoasiatic type(Near Eastern) from which it has diversified over several thousand years.

And that:

what is now Arabid, Iranid and Euro-Med was once one single race, that in the fertile crescent separated, others moved in the Middle East, others in the Arabian peninsula and others in Europe through Anatolia.

That's agreeable as these indeed are the common phenotypes in the Middle East. But is it a crime to say that the guy in OP looks like a mix of Aegean Med (which isn't a legit phenotype, but I'll go with it) and Orientalid?

There is nothing Orientalid on him, he is a South East European of the Aegean Islands! Aegean racial type classified as such by Greek Anthropologist Aris Poulianios, you can doubt him all you want, still you are not an Anthropologist so your words do not have any value on his classifications and taxonomies.

Again, you never know what his ancestry is. There are Romanians with gypsy ancestry, English people with Indian ancestry, Americans with native ancestry. Who's to say that he doesn't have gypsy or MENA ancestry as well?

He is average for Crete, if he has MENA ancestry then all Cretans must have, when they don't have!


According to the genetic site eupedia.com:

Northern Greeks(Thrace & Macedonia) : 93,7 % European
Central Greeks(Epirus & Thessaly) : 92,2 % European
Southern Greeks(Sterea Hellas & Peloponnese) : 93,9 % European
Eastern Greeks(Aegean islands & Ionia) : 91,7% European
Cretan Greeks(Crete) : 91,1 % European

All Greeks : 93,4 % European"

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t99...6#post11562743

http://www.eupedia.com/forum/printth...4&pp=25&page=1

Something is definitely exotic about him.

What is this exotic about him you cannot even name? Middle and Near Easterners have completely different facial features, being Arabid, Iranid(swarthy skinned) and Armenoids.

The man has South-East European features, he is Mediterranid and Cretan Aegean Islander looking.

Without the beard he looks completely European, more like an Italian.




You better stop trying to orientalize Europeans!

[Hellenas]

I am sure you also find those Iberians "exotic" too. Just because they called so and posted most of them tanned by some Northtards of Italic Roots.














To prove someone is mixed you need Real Anthropologists classifying him as well as strong genetic evidences! Not some biased MENA and Northtards posting in foruns!

[Hellenas]

Wow a somewhat woggy looking Cretan, not sure what the big deal is.

The big deal is that you claim to be a Western Atlanto-Mediterranean repeatedly calling Aegean Islanders and especially Aegean Mediterranids as swarthy and wogs!

Cretans are very diverse and their types range from nordids to taurids. There have been many posts in the past with various examples that demonstrate this phenotypical diversity.

Lol, most Cretans are Aegean Mediterranids and Crete is the most homogenous place in all over Greece!


1. Geographical distribution of anthropological traits in Crete shows largely uniformity across the island. The Cretans belong in their absolute majority to the Aegean type of the eastmediterranean branch of the great Europaeoid race. The spread of this type in the Aegean associated with the prosoasiatic type from which it has diversified over several thousand years. It is native type of the region

2. The varieties that make up the anthropological type of Crete stand out, with great enough accuracy, from the anthropological types of northern Africa and, secondly, the types of the Middle East. They are closer to the type of the Aegean basin, generally, which extends to Thrace and Southern Bulgaria, in western Asia Minor and parts of the Black Sea.

3. Movements of peoples in prehistoric and historic period did not bring significant changes in the morphological features of the Cretans and the differences we observe in some parts of Crete, are coatings on the original type of the island.

Aris Poulianos, "The descend of Cretans", page 127, year 1971.


You don't even have any connection with Crete or any Cretan ancestry, you better start talking about Western Atlanto Meds of Britain and leave alone Crete.

[Hellenas]

looks gay

I am sure he can stick this up your ass without hearing a second word from you!

https://piknu.com/m/1146565730601894427_651967655

[Hellenas]

We can only keep four classifications so far as correct.

Med

apart from the funky hairstyles he looks very Greek to me.

Med

And mine: Aegean Mediterranid, South-East European.

[nafz]

The big deal is that you claim to be a Western Atlanto-Mediterranean repeatedly calling Aegean Islanders and especially Aegean Mediterranids as swarthy and wogs!

I never claimed to be anything, where did you see this.? Stop quoting things that were never said by me.

Regarding the OP, I said this specific guy is somewhat woggy, I did not claim all Aegean Islanders are swarthy and wogs. Stop distorting my words.

Aris Poulianos stuff....

I don't need an anthropology book from 50 years ago to tell me how Cretans look. I have been in the island many times and many of my friends are from Crete. They are mostly med but many other types exist. You can find atlantids, alpines, dinarids, and I feel sorry to say this because your are not going to like it, but it is the truth, there are even nordic looking Cretans.