US blames Iran for oil tanker attack in Gulf of Oman amid rising tensions

[Pahli]

Judging from how quickly things went the last time around, India would utterly destroy them in under 24 to 48 hrs. Provided, of course, that the rest of the world looks the other way.

To be honest, most countries would except the Islamic countries for obvious reasons, the super powers wouldn't really care about some terrorists' nest, they've been giving their neighbours more trouble than good.

[Armenian Bishop]

Judging from how quickly things went the last time around, India would utterly destroy them in under 24 to 48 hrs. Provided, of course, that the rest of the world looks the other way.

1971 Indo-Pakistani War: "Following the surrender, the Indian Army took approximately 90,000 Pakistani servicemen and their Bengali supporters as POWs, making it the largest surrender since World War II."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-P...ni_War_of_1971

[War Chef]

You believe the sources of the NY Times?

[KMack]

Good finally they have real source. Anyone still believe the CIA is blowing up oil tankers.

[The Lawspeaker]

The Guardian (fucking yuck !) reports that:

Airlines avoid Iran drone strike area due to fears of 'miscalculation'

BA, Qantas, KLM and Lufthansa reroute flights following Iran’s shooting down of US aircraft

KLM said it would avoid the strait of Hormuz, where the US Global Hawk was shot down. Photograph: Pascal Pavani/AFP/Getty Images International airlines have started to alter course around Iranian airspace following the shooting down of a US military drone in the Gulf.

British Airways, Qantas, Lufthansa and KLM were among the carriers that said they were choosing to reroute flights, after the US Federal Aviation Administration issued a warning and blocked US-registered aircraft from flying over Iranian waters in the strait of Hormuz and the Gulf of Oman.

The FAA’s emergency “notice to airmen” – notam – warned of a “potential for miscalculation or misidentification” in the area, a heavily used corridor for global flights, including from the US and Europe through the Middle East to India and Australia.

On Thursday, an Iranian surface-to-air missile shot down a US Global Hawk drone, a $130m (£102m) unmanned aircraft the size of a commercial passenger jet. The FAA said there were passenger planes in the air 45 miles away when the strike occurred.
The US carrier United Airlines has suspended flights between Newark airport near New York and Mumbai due to safety fears.

BA said it was adhering to the FAA guidance to avoid the area but flights continued to operate as normal, using alternative routes. “Our safety and security team are constantly liaising with authorities around the world as part of their comprehensive risk assessment into every route we operate,” a spokeswoman said.

Qantas said it would reroute its Australia-London flights, while the German carrier Lufthansa and KLM of the Netherlands said they would avoid the strait – although Lufthansa will continue flights to Tehran.

Dutch nationals made up the majority of the 298 people killed when Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down over Ukraine in 2014.

Opsgroup, which provides intelligence to airlines, said “the threat of a civil aircraft shootdown in southern Iran is real”. It said the Iranian weapon that attacked the US drone was comparable to the Russian Buk system that shot down the Malaysian plane.

According to Associated Press, the FAA notam is the second this year to suggest Iranian weapons could fire on an airliner in error, a possibility Tehran has dismissed, although in 1988, a US navy warship said it mistook an Iranian passenger plane in the Gulf for a fighter, shooting it down and killing 290 people.

Qatar Airways had yet to respond to requests for comment, but flights appeared to be continuing to fly through Iranian airspace, including the strait of Hormuz. The airline, which codeshares with BA on many flights, has been barred from the skies of Gulf neighbours including Saudi Arabia since 2017, forcing it north on many flights.

Emirates, based in Dubai, has the closest major hub to the affected area. The airline said it was taking precautionary measures including rerouting all flights away from areas of possible conflict, but the disruption had “minimally affected” the timings of flights.

“We are carefully monitoring the ongoing developments and are in close contact with the relevant government authorities with regards to our flight operations,” a spokesman said.

Etihad, based in Abu Dhabi, said it had contingency plans in place. The carrier said it would decide if any action was required after “carefully evaluating” the FAA directive.

Diversions could mean further costs for Gulf long-haul airlines, the operations of which have been subject to years of intense lobbying by US carriers over perceived unfair competition. The Gulf airlines have been affected by Donald Trump’s travel bans targeting predominantly Muslim countries, and prohibitions on laptops in cabins.

[War Chef]

The Guardian (fucking yuck !) reports that:

Airlines avoid Iran drone strike area due to fears of 'miscalculation'

BA, Qantas, KLM and Lufthansa reroute flights following Iran’s shooting down of US aircraft

KLM said it would avoid the strait of Hormuz, where the US Global Hawk was shot down. Photograph: Pascal Pavani/AFP/Getty Images International airlines have started to alter course around Iranian airspace following the shooting down of a US military drone in the Gulf.

British Airways, Qantas, Lufthansa and KLM were among the carriers that said they were choosing to reroute flights, after the US Federal Aviation Administration issued a warning and blocked US-registered aircraft from flying over Iranian waters in the strait of Hormuz and the Gulf of Oman.

The FAA’s emergency “notice to airmen” – notam – warned of a “potential for miscalculation or misidentification” in the area, a heavily used corridor for global flights, including from the US and Europe through the Middle East to India and Australia.

On Thursday, an Iranian surface-to-air missile shot down a US Global Hawk drone, a $130m (£102m) unmanned aircraft the size of a commercial passenger jet. The FAA said there were passenger planes in the air 45 miles away when the strike occurred.
The US carrier United Airlines has suspended flights between Newark airport near New York and Mumbai due to safety fears.

BA said it was adhering to the FAA guidance to avoid the area but flights continued to operate as normal, using alternative routes. “Our safety and security team are constantly liaising with authorities around the world as part of their comprehensive risk assessment into every route we operate,” a spokeswoman said.

Qantas said it would reroute its Australia-London flights, while the German carrier Lufthansa and KLM of the Netherlands said they would avoid the strait – although Lufthansa will continue flights to Tehran.

Dutch nationals made up the majority of the 298 people killed when Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down over Ukraine in 2014.

Opsgroup, which provides intelligence to airlines, said “the threat of a civil aircraft shootdown in southern Iran is real”. It said the Iranian weapon that attacked the US drone was comparable to the Russian Buk system that shot down the Malaysian plane.

According to Associated Press, the FAA notam is the second this year to suggest Iranian weapons could fire on an airliner in error, a possibility Tehran has dismissed, although in 1988, a US navy warship said it mistook an Iranian passenger plane in the Gulf for a fighter, shooting it down and killing 290 people.

Qatar Airways had yet to respond to requests for comment, but flights appeared to be continuing to fly through Iranian airspace, including the strait of Hormuz. The airline, which codeshares with BA on many flights, has been barred from the skies of Gulf neighbours including Saudi Arabia since 2017, forcing it north on many flights.

Emirates, based in Dubai, has the closest major hub to the affected area. The airline said it was taking precautionary measures including rerouting all flights away from areas of possible conflict, but the disruption had “minimally affected” the timings of flights.

“We are carefully monitoring the ongoing developments and are in close contact with the relevant government authorities with regards to our flight operations,” a spokesman said.

Etihad, based in Abu Dhabi, said it had contingency plans in place. The carrier said it would decide if any action was required after “carefully evaluating” the FAA directive.

Diversions could mean further costs for Gulf long-haul airlines, the operations of which have been subject to years of intense lobbying by US carriers over perceived unfair competition. The Gulf airlines have been affected by Donald Trump’s travel bans targeting predominantly Muslim countries, and prohibitions on laptops in cabins.

The question is why did the pilots of MH17 fly over a war-zone? Those passengers suffered some of the most horrible fate imaginable, most of them conscious & free-falling to their deaths while being strapped to their chairs.

[The Lawspeaker]

The question is why did the pilots of MH17 fly over a war-zone? Those passengers suffered some of the most horrible fate imaginable, most of them conscious & free-falling to their deaths while being strapped to their chairs.

It was still an open air route until that day. I used to fly over the same area as well.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

[The Lawspeaker]

Neocon traitors have been pushing America foolishly towards a costly war with Iran my entire adult life, despite their disastrous record of military misadventures in the mid East so far, ostensibly to push toxic and destructive postmodern late western values, that even THEY must know don't work, but actually just at the behest and for the benefit of countries like Israel and Saudi Arabia, against their principle regional rivals. 2016 Brown University cost study. (PDF) http://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/fi... 2013 Harvard Paper https://www.hks.harvard.edu/publicati...

[The Lawspeaker]

While some clamor for war with Iran, Trump seems unenthusiastic.