Why Spain???

[Ruggery]

Indeed a female Argentinian friend from back in Spain, who was from Buenos Aires, told me that Buenos Aires looked a lot like Madrid. That Buenos Aires was like a giant version of Madrid. Go and figure.

Buenos Aires, is a mixture of cities like Madrid, Rome, Paris and Barcelona, ​​the reason why Buenos Aires is called the Paris of America is because it has structures traced to those of Paris.

In addition, most cities in Latin-Europeans countries have a similar structure.

[Gallop]

[alnortedelsur]

Buenos Aires, is a mixture of cities like Madrid, Rome, Paris and Barcelona, ​​the reason why Buenos Aires is called the Paris of America is because it has structures traced to those of Paris.

In addition, most cities in Latin-Europeans countries have a similar structure.

I don't disagree, but I just have to say that I have seen many pics and videos from Buenos Aires (I would love to visit it someday) and its architecture and overall atmosphere doesn't look particularly "foreign" for Spanish standards.

[Ouistreham]

"Why Spaniards like to represent themselves with arab rythms?"

It's the other way around.
Keep in mind that Islam never encouraged music, remember that Islamic/Arabic cultures are distinguished by their extremely low inventiveness.
They never created anything of their own. Most brilliant Muslim civilizations flourished on Iberian, Persian and Indian soil. In other words, the Arabs were just parasites taking advantage of cultural innovations developed by other peoples.

In North Africa, "Arabic" music is called Andalusian style. Isn't it highly significant?

I don't disagree, but I just have to say that I have seen many pics and videos from Buenos Aires (I would love to visit it someday) and its architecture and overall atmosphere doesn't look particularly "foreign" for Spanish standards.

Quite right. In Madrid, the Gran Via looks very much like the images I have seen of Buenos-Aires.

[Latinus]

One thing I don't understand about this forum: why do so many Europeans care about fitting the "white" label? I thought this was sorely a New World concept.
Do Spaniards identify as "blanco(a)"?

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[Tietar]

the music and dance traditional of Madrid city is the Chotis, Its name derives from the German term Schottisch ("Scottish"), a Central European social dance to which in Vienna it was wanted to attribute origin in a Scottish dance. And the traditional instrument is the barrel organ. The traditional music of the region of Madrid is similar to the Castilian.







As regards the Arab legacy in Madrid, there is an old wall that I can post so that some members can enjoy it

[Duffmannn]

One thing I don't understand about this forum: why do so many Europeans care about fitting the "white" label? I thought this was sorely a New World concept.
Do Spaniards identify as "blanco(a)"?

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Europe is becoming a new Latin America in the racial and social sense thanks to inmigration.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

"Why Spaniards like to represent themselves with arab rythms?"

It's the other way around.
Keep in mind that Islam never encouraged music, remember that Islamic/Arabic cultures are distinguished by their extremely low inventiveness.
They never created anything of their own. Most brilliant Muslim civilizations flourished on Iberian, Persian and Indian soil. In other words, the Arabs were just parasites taking advantage of cultural innovations developed by other peoples.

In North Africa, "Arabic" music is called Andalusian style. Isn't it highly significant?



Quite right. In Madrid, the Gran Via looks very much like the images I have seen of Buenos-Aires.

Interesting, so this cool vibe of Soraya Arnelas music is actually a islamic rythm that was previously stoled from ancient iberian populations or at least developed in the prosperous Al Andalus Kingdom?
I have seen many iranian things are associated with islam, but are actually persian by origin!

[Tenma de Pegasus]

Europe is becoming a new Latin America in the racial sense thanks to inmigration.

In some decades Santa Catarina, Uruguay, Santa Fé, Rio Grande do Sul, Missiones, Parana and Rosario will have more european admixture than entire european countries. Sadly.

[Nassbean]

"Why Spaniards like to represent themselves with arab rythms?"

It's the other way around.
Keep in mind that Islam never encouraged music, remember that Islamic/Arabic cultures are distinguished by their extremely low inventiveness.
They never created anything of their own. Most brilliant Muslim civilizations flourished on Iberian, Persian and Indian soil. In other words, the Arabs were just parasites taking advantage of cultural innovations developed by other peoples.

In North Africa, "Arabic" music is called Andalusian style. Isn't it highly significant?



Quite right. In Madrid, the Gran Via looks very much like the images I have seen of Buenos-Aires.

North africans are not arabs and the great majority of "islamic" scientists were north africans and persians. Btw no "arabic" music is not called andalusian style (that's only one part of north africa's music) in north africa wtf are you talking about you better stick to your france.

Also it's quite funny because the most famous andalusian singer was Ziryab and he was from irak not Iberia and the English words lute, rebec, guitar, and naker derive from the Arabic oud, rabab, qithara and naqareh.

The author also discusses a number of rare books related to Andalusian music, including a directory of Andalusian music written in 1786 by Al Haik (of Tetouan, Morocco), and a rare repertoire of songs of Granada and Cordoba printed in 1886/1887.

If the term Gharnati refers in the region of Tlemcen in Algeria to a distinct musical style of the Andalusian music, in Morocco, the term is rather loosely applied to the music of Tangiers, Tetouan, and even to that of some Jewish communities.

The Nuba of Morocco have been identified in the eighteenth century by the musician Al Haïk from Tetouan