How to tell Balkan people apart (with examples)

[Ayetooey]

Ok, so Zlatan has no Gypsy in him? This is what i hear. He was once even taunted by opposition fans who were calling him gypsy.

I think that was a myth, his mother is Arbanarsi/croat mix from Zadar, and his father is podrinje Bosniak from Bijeljina. Zlatan just looks Dinarid to me.

[Papastratosels26]

Just stereotype, nothing else...

Most of the people will group Macedonians in the fourth group just because of a stereotype...

Macedonians can not simply be grouped in the fourth group just because they are not meso to dolicho on average but with dominant Dinarid element and plus round faces are not the norm...

Macedonians are similar people to Bulgarians no doubt, BUT there is a difference when it comes to phenotype that even the Bulgarians themselves will tell you.

Even the Bulgarians and Romanians are not that similar as some think...

In my observation. Macedonians are mainly Dinaro-Alpine range.

Average cephalic index IMO is 82-83
Meso to Brachycephaly...

[Aspar]

In my observation. Macedonians are mainly Dinaro-Alpine range.

Average cephalic index IMO is 82-83
Meso to Brachycephaly...

I agree but the Mediterranean phenotype is also dominant especially in the South...

82-83 is my own cephalic index.

[Ayetooey]

Yea, most of Muslims from eastern Bosnia are descendants of imigrants from western and central Serbia in 19th century. Serbs from Podrinje in eastern Bosnia call local Muslims "Užice Muslims" because a lot of them have roots from Užice https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Užice
Muslims of eastern Bosnia which not settlers from Serbia are also of Serbian origin, eastern Bosnia was always Serbian ethnic region.

I've seen few results of Bosniaks from that region and they always plot on or very close to the Serb dot; quite different to Bosniaks from central Bosnia who are more Croat shifted. Do you know of Y dna stats for Bosniaks of that region?

[Papastratosels26]

Post pictures guys. Contribute..

[Vožd]

1. Its Western Croats and Slovenians.
Slavonians (north Croats) are not that light, they have strong Herzegovian roots, definitely not among the lightest Croats.

North Serbs often look somewhat like this:

He is from north, but his look is more common to Krajina and western Serbs.
North Serbs are more like her:

[Papastratosels26]

I agree but the Mediterranean phenotype is also dominant especially in the South...

82-83 is my own cephalic index.

Although I don't if this woman is Macedonia, you can tell.


She has small Alpine influence.

Mainly Pontid

[Pribislav]

I've seen few results of Bosniaks from that region and they always plot on or very close to the Serb dot; quite different to Bosniaks from central Bosnia who are more Croat shifted. Do you know of Y dna stats for Bosniaks of that region?

I found statistic fom Muslims/Bosniaks from eastern Bosnia on "Bosniak (Sandžakian) DNA project." Sample is small, but show some tendencies.

I2a1 - 31.03%

I1 - 24.14%

R1a - 17.24%

E-V13 - 13.79%

J2b - 6.9%

J2a - 3.45%

R1b - 3.45%

[Ayetooey]

Sandzak man. Jahja Fehratovic.

[Papastratosels26]

Average Albanians.



Dinarid is very dominant in Albania.