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    Apparently I am 18.75 % "white" if we go by family history of three or four generations above me. But it does not show up. I am predominantly Iranian and MENA looking.

    By white I mean christian Caucasians of Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MS85 View Post
    Ivanka Trump converted to Judaism and is married to Jared Kushner who is known to be a Jew. Ivanka Trump is NOT an Ashkenazi Jew. Would you consider their children as 'pure' Ashkenazi Jews?

    Are all of your 4 grandparents Ashkenazi? And their grandparents etc.
    Their children would not be pure Ashkenazi Jews, but you said:
    Today you can be a Jew even with only 1% of real Jewish blood in you
    "Jew" can refer to both religion and ethnicity. Their children will technically be fully Jewish, even if it's not in their blood.

    All of my 8 great grandparents are Ashkenazi. I don't know any further back than that across the board.
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    Ethnic identity should center around culture, language, community, customs etc., not around DNA tests. Phenotype is also important but not that much for native Europeans.

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    I admit only one type of "ethnic identification" - readiness to fight and die for the ethnos to be identified with. All the rest is not so important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOldNorth View Post
    I guess I'm not european then... unless you count jews as european do to heavy roman, and minor slavic admixture. Hell on my true ancestry ashkenazis show roman and hellenic greek but not canaanite, which sephardis do
    If you are from Haplogroup I you are European . Native European haplogroup.

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    I identify as black because I grew up around my maternal side of my family, and in that side, I have black family members, my grandfather identified as black
    I ate black influence cuisine from the state of Veracruz, I listened to black influence music from the state of Veracruz

    Growing up, I did identify as mix race I suppose but this whole race talk was never a thing in my family, we all just saw ourselves as Mexicans in America
    But when it came down to my ancestries, I always acknowledge both sides

    As I got older, I realize how connected I am to my blackness and Africa
    how proud I am to have black roots, how vocal I am about black issues
    When I went to Brazil, the areas I felt more at home were in black neighborhoods, the culture, the rhythms, the hospitality, the colorful vibe all drew me in
    I didn't feel that same connection with the so called whiter Brazilians, their neighborhoods are so dull with no life
    When I would travel to Mexico, the people I felt the most connection to were with Afro-Veracruzanos

    Yeah, I understand that I am not pred African, not even half, I am not even a quadroon but less than that
    But, I can't help my connection to blackness, I feel like the black culture that was installed in me as a younger child made me who I am today
    Im a respectful man who doesn't look down on the people who contributed to my genes, because in this day and age, we have been programmed to hate our non-white side and praise our whiteness
    Even on this forum, you will see Latinos hating on their Amerindian or black side, and why? because we have been programmed to hate the people that made us
    To hate that side of our ancestry that NEVER EVER did anything to us, but to care, provide and pamper us with unconditional love
    All of what our ancestors went through, we should be proud because they went through a lot under colonialism
    This is not a hate towards Europeans but more about acknowledging the true story and effect of their colonization

    Some may ask, "well Carlito's, why do you hate your white side if they contributed to your genes as well?", I don't hate my white side, I grew up with Venetian and Afro-Mexican influences
    What I dislike are racist asshole from this forum who mention black people and look down on them, all due to their insecurities that they have within themselves
    And most of these racist white members have NEVER EVER been assaulted by a black person in their lives but they have been programmed to hate and look down on blackness

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlito's Way View Post
    I identify as black because I grew up around my maternal side of my family, and in that side, I have black family members, my grandfather identified as black
    I ate black influence cuisine from the state of Veracruz, I listened to black influence music from the state of Veracruz

    Growing up, I did identify as mix race I suppose but this whole race talk was never a thing in my family, we all just saw ourselves as Mexicans in America
    But when it came down to my ancestries, I always acknowledge both sides

    As I got older, I realize how connected I am to my blackness and Africa
    how proud I am to have black roots, how vocal I am about black issues
    When I went to Brazil, the areas I felt more at home were in black neighborhoods, the culture, the rhythms, the hospitality, the colorful vibe all drew me in
    I didn't feel that same connection with the so called whiter Brazilians, their neighborhoods are so dull with no life
    When I would travel to Mexico, the people I felt the most connection to were with Afro-Veracruzanos

    Yeah, I understand that I am not pred African, not even half, I am not even a quadroon but less than that
    But, I can't help my connection to blackness, I feel like the black culture that was installed in me as a younger child made me who I am today
    Im a respectful man who doesn't look down on the people who contributed to my genes, because in this day and age, we have been programmed to hate our non-white side and praise our whiteness
    Even on this forum, you will see Latinos hating on their Amerindian or black side, and why? because we have been programmed to hate the people that made us
    To hate that side of our ancestry that NEVER EVER did anything to us, but to care, provide and pamper us with unconditional love
    All of what our ancestors went through, we should be proud because they went through a lot under colonialism
    This is not a hate towards Europeans but more about acknowledging the true story and effect of their colonization

    Some may ask, "well Carlito's, why do you hate your white side if they contributed to your genes as well?", I don't hate my white side, I grew up with Venetian and Afro-Mexican influences
    What I dislike are racist asshole from this forum who mention black people and look down on them, all due to their insecurities that they have within themselves
    And most of these racist white members have NEVER EVER been assaulted by a black person in their lives but they have been programmed to hate and look down on blackness
    Really fascinating and important insight! Thank you

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    Three elements determine your ethnicity: culture (language being the most important), blood (genes, ancestry call it whatever you like) and continuous or let's say prolonged habitation on a particular patch of land (land of your fathers). If you lack an element or if you have less of one or each element you drift further away from that specific ethnic group.

    I always thought that it is difficult to be a mixed person, especially a racially mixed person living in a society that puts so much emphasis on racial identity.

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