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Thread: How is it possible that the average IQ of the people of Qatar is lower than those of Yemen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supercomputer View Post
    It's not difficult at all. Lynn's (same author) 2012 book has an updated list, the book is available online
    https://lesacreduprintemps19.files.w...u-vanhanen.pdf

    One guy on this forum obtained even newer list with some studies from as late as 2016:
    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...es-per-country

    I even made a map on Lynn's 2012 numbers:



    Website viewoniq.org has numbers from newer studies also, although figures for some countries are different probably due to different synchronization.

    The list that is most frequently posted online is form Lynn's old 2002 book which is mostly made up of very old studies and has laughable claims such as Sierra Leone having equal IQ to Lithuania, Croatia and Ireland.
    Yes, I know that. However I have noticed that the results for Yemen have changed according to the studies, but in three different publications Tajikistan, which is one of the countries with the poorest people in an absolute sense, has people with an average IQ of seven points higher than those of Qatar, which is one of the countries with the richest people. If the differences in IQ do not vary even as a function of such enormous cultural differences, I believe it is highly likely that even highly correlated traits do not vary in function of these differences, and therefore that the influence of the shared environment, in the studies of behavioral genetics, more or less tends to last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ModernMaskil View Post
    If it were, Ashkenazi Jews would be utterly imbecilic and would not achieve the most basic human functionality.
    But they actually do not practice consistently actual consanguineous marriages, them being inbred is more of a case of a bottleneck effect in the Middle Ages & their endogamy. It's a different story. Also genes for intelligence would be positively selected among Ashkenazi Jews as it was their only way to survive in often hostile environment, their preferred professions (like bankers) & highly admired qualities by them would also be conducive to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy View Post
    But they actually do not practice consistently actual consanguineous marriages, them being inbred is more of a case of a bottleneck effect in the Middle Ages & their endogamy. It's a different story. Also genes for intelligence would be positively selected among Ashkenazi Jews as it was their only way to survive in often hostile environment, their preferred professions (like bankers) & highly admired qualities by them would also be conducive to it.
    If two people are related to a high degree, it's irrelevant whether or not they are actual cousins or if it is a result of endogamy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ModernMaskil View Post
    If two people are related to a high degree, it's irrelevant whether or not they are actual cousins or if it is a result of endogamy.
    No, it is not irrelevant. Jews as far as I am concerned don't marry to their family (gross) save for Rothschilds who were lucky enough to avoid deleterious effects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supercomputer View Post
    It's not difficult at all. Lynn's (same author) 2012 book has an updated list, the book is available online
    https://lesacreduprintemps19.files.w...u-vanhanen.pdf

    One guy on this forum obtained even newer list with some studies from as late as 2016:
    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...es-per-country

    I even made a map on Lynn's 2012 numbers:



    Website viewoniq.org has numbers from newer studies also, although figures for some countries are different probably due to different synchronization.

    The list that is most frequently posted online is form Lynn's old 2002 book which is mostly made up of very old studies and has laughable claims such as Sierra Leone having equal IQ to Lithuania, Croatia and Ireland.
    The IQ of some countries, for example the high number for the USA despite the high hispanic and black population, or Uruguay scoring less that Argentina, have no sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hypergiant View Post
    What is the value of these iq tests anyways that they enjoy a high status? Who's smarter in life, a mathematics professor, or the dude in the jungle who knows all the medicinal and poisonous plants and who can hunt and build things? The value of every person is found in what he is best in..
    IQ are made in such way that even an illiterate person can do it.

    Illiterate chinese farmers that have had hunger during their lives usually score more than african americans, for example.

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