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    Quote Originally Posted by The Blade View Post
    In this particular case it only becomes clear who the Russian is by the ''FashionBank.ru" phrase.
    Both can fit as the opposite ethnicity.
    Taxonomy doesn't reflect ethnicity and doesn't care much about it, especially in the case of Europeans.
    Ethnicity is a later concept when people of various racial subtypes had already coexisted at certain areas. Furthermore, countries' borders have changed a lot in Europe, so the frequency of certain phenotypes in various states has decreased or increased.
    First woman is Tronder and second Faelid in terms of taxonomy.
    Neither fits categories like Brunn or Baltid.
    A good guess. I think it's just a matter of taste as classify. Faelid could be good classification for her I think.
    Basically Faelid is also North-East Upper Paleolithic type.
    Hindenburg is East Baltic in Coon's schema and Faelid in Günther's schema.

    East Baltic is sybtype of Ladogan type.

    (4) Ladogan: I propose to give this name to the descendants of the mesocephalic and brachycephalic forest-dwelling population of northern Europe east of the Baltic in Kammkeramik times. This type is a blend of a partly mongoloid brachycephalic element with a mesocephalic form of general Upper Palaeolithic aspect; these elements are seen in crania from Lake Ladoga and Salis Roje. (See Chapter IV, section 13, pp. 125-126.) Corded and/or Danubian elements are inextricably blended here, although the mongoloid and Upper Palaeolithic elements seem at present more important. In its present form this composite type shows two numerous variants:

    (a) Neo-Danubian: Strongly mixed with the old Danubian, and to a lesser extent other elements, to form the common peasant type of eastern Europe, with many local variants.

    (b) East Baltic: Strongly mixed with Corded, Iron Age Nordic, and western Palaeolithic survivors to form the predominant population of much of Finland and the Baltic States.

    (5) Lappish: A stunted, highly brachycephalized, largely brunet relative of the Ladogan, originally living to the east of the Ladogan type area, in the Urals and western Siberia. Has probably assimilated some evolved mongoloid, but owes its partly mongoloid appearance more to the retention of an early intermediate evolutionary condition. In modern times much mixed with Ladogan and Nordic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    He's even got Bank of Ireland written across his shirt in the 6th picture. Another good thread. He's a good Sligo man.
    Ahh.. good catch! Although many teams have foreigners (e.g. Alberto Botia played for a Greek football team from 2014-2018) so the shirt they wear isn't necessarily indicative of their ethnicity or origin.

    In this case though he is ethnically Irish. Wasn't sure where in Ireland he's from. Now I do! Good to know .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    He looks like Prince Harry in the 2nd photo, a depigmented Russian in the 3rd and a depigmented Central Asian in the 4th. It really depends on the perspective, but if he were to take a 23andme test, autosomally I bet he'd turn about 20% East Asian/Siberian, which is the average for Udmurts.
    Maybe on 23andme, but on G25, formal stats or admixture-based calculators like gedmatch, Udmurts are closer to 26-28% Mongoloid or up to 30% East Asian/Siberian genetically.

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