R1b frequency in West Asians

**Zroota** · 06-19-2019, 03:44 PM

Thoughts?

Full list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_..._the_Near_East

I expected Turks, Iranians, Georgians and Cypriots to have more frequent amounts, especially more than the Assyrians -- I find it odd that the secluded, historically mountain-dwelling, Semitic-speaking, Assyrians fare a higher percentage than these ethnic groups. R1b is also surprisingly low in Lebanese people, who have had contact with many different Indo-European peoples in the past, including the Greeks, Romans and the French.

**Crimson Winds** · 06-19-2019, 03:48 PM

It is even exaggerated for Turks, they around %10-15 except the Black Sea region. I guess people from there overrepresented.

**Antimatter** · 06-22-2019, 01:10 PM

First of all there are many ethnicities in the chart that are not West Asian (e.g Algerians, Sudanese, Copts). I think using small samples is a big error. That's why a sample of 48 showing R1b is 29.2% is not reliable at all, for a sample to be more accurate to the true frequency IMO it should be at least 200+ taken from all over the country/community. Instead, this Sample was taken from Assyrian community in Iran.

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**~~Rico33~~** · 08-07-2019, 01:12 PM

What about the Amerindians? They have it too sometimes and I don't think they have anything to do with indo european languages.

**Blondie** · 08-07-2019, 01:21 PM

This r1b type belonged to armenians, hittites.

**Zroota** · 12-24-2019, 12:59 AM

Originally Posted by Antimatter

First of all there are many ethnicities in the chart that are not West Asian (e.g Algerians, Sudanese, Copts). I think using small samples is a big error. That's why a sample of 48 showing R1b is 29.2% is not reliable at all, for a sample to be more accurate to the true frequency IMO it should be at least 200+ taken from all over the country/community. Instead, this Sample was taken from Assyrian community in Iran.

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Assyrians from Iran are still ethnically Assyrian though. They may have minor Iranian admixture, but it's very distant. Either way, it's a taboo for an Assyrian to marry or intermix with a Muslim (since Iranians are predominantly Islamic).

Originally Posted by Blondie

This r1b type belonged to armenians, hittites.

Correct. We had intermingled with them in the past (Armenians much recently though). And Hittites may have been 'absorbed' into our population (as well as into modern Turks and Levantines). So us having R1b may be because a few us have Armenian and Hittite ancestry.

**Zroota** · 02-20-2020, 12:10 AM

Originally Posted by Rico33

What about the Amerindians? They have it too sometimes and I don't think they have anything to do with indo european languages.

Perhaps it's because many Amerindians today may have some European blood? It makes sense considering the colonisation.

**Brutus** · 04-17-2020, 02:55 PM

Aside from Turkey and Iran, the Levant has a high percentage of R1b. R1b was found in like 15% of the Syrian population, 17% of Jordanians, 8% of Lebanese people and 9% of the Palestinians. But still most subclades are either R-Z2103 or R-V88, the western clades are rare and you can find them spread scarcely in Lebanon and Palestine.

**~~Kmakkmak~~** · 04-17-2020, 07:33 PM

I not be surprised if Assyrian Royal is R1b.

**Zroota** · 05-16-2020, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by Brutus

Aside from Turkey and Iran, the Levant has a high percentage of R1b. R1b was found in like 15% of the Syrian population, 17% of Jordanians, 8% of Lebanese people and 9% of the Palestinians. But still most subclades are either R-Z2103 or R-V88, the western clades are rare and you can find them spread scarcely in Lebanon and Palestine.

8% and 9% is not a "high percentage" though.