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Thread: Are Mediterraean Europeans culturally closer to Mediterranean non-Europeans or to Northern Europeans

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renekton View Post
    To the Northern Europeans. Personally I feel that way than to MENAS.
    As much as I would like to agree with you, Sir Hot Crocodile Lifeguard, I cannot do that, for there are reasons that I already spoke on why that's not the case.

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    They're close to their neighbors duh. So other Europeans and other Meds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by renaissance12 View Post
    I see.. but culture is something more ( much more ) than value privacy, moderation, mutual care, respect for human rights....and all these characteristics are highly questionable and therefore inconsistent in defining what culture is.( love and hate are not " culture" ).

    A savage Viking in the forest or a Negro in Congo Forest could give high credit to value privacy.. moderation, mutual care, respect for human righst ( their human rights )...

    Let's start from HUMAN RIGHTS...What are the rights?
    Savage? Everyone in the medieval Nordic world was a Viking.

    Study: Vikings were Sociable, not Savage

    Scientists at Coventry University have revealed a complex social system within the Icelandic Sagas, challenging the stereotypical image of the Vikings as supernatural, violent savages.

    https://www.icelandreview.com/news/s...le-not-savage/
    ”Human rights apply to all and are based on the idea that all people are born free and entitled to make their own decisions over their own lives. Human rights include the right not to be discriminated against, freedom of speech, the rights of women and children, freedom of thought and religion, the right to education and the right to health.”

    Now we can ask what is non-Euro Med culture? It’s essentially Arab Muslim culture which is a relativist culture. For example what is good for you may not be good for Islam therefore Islam must take priority. Respect for the rule of law, freedom of expression and many othet so called man-made laws may not be acceptable to Allah. Because the prophet of Islam assasinated many people himself and was a moral relativitist, these things are tacidly accepted in Muslim societies.

    That way:


    It is haram to marry an adult pagan woman but halal to marry an underage Muslim child.

    It is haram to steal an egg from a Muslim, punishable by cutting hands and feet, but halal to rob non Muslim's commercial caravans, rewarded by share of the booty.

    It is haram to slaughter an animal in a name other than God but halal to slaughter a human being in the name of God.

    It is haram to befriend a Jew or a Christian but halal to kill them and sleep with their wives and daughters.

    It is haram to watch television but halal to watch beheadings and stoning.

    It is haram for a woman even to show her face to a namahram man but halal for a man to disrobe and inspect a namahram woman before buying her in a slave market.

    It is haram to buy mortgage to acquire a house for your family but halal to buy a woman from a slave market to sleep with her.

    It is haram to trade alcohol but halal to trade human beings.

    It is haram to listen to music but halal to listen to wailing of innocent women and children of the beheaded critics and apostates.

    It is haram to see a movie but halal to kill an infidel.

    It is haram to bet on a horse for entertainment but halal to steal a horse from an infidel for a living.

    It is haram for a woman to have more than one husband but halal for a husband to have more than one wife.

    It is haram for a husband to hurt his wife by treating other wives better, but halal for him to hurt them all by acquiring and sleeping with unlimited slaves and captive women.

    It is haram for a wife to refuse her husband even on a camels back but halal for a husband to beat her up with a lash and green stick if she refuses him.

    It is haram to even break the heart of a single innocent person if he is Muslim, but halal to behead all the innocent men of a community and sell their innocent women and children in slavery if they are non Muslims.

    It is haram to attack and and injure enemy women but halal to enslave and rape them.

    It is halal to stone a woman by burying her in a hole dug to her shoulders to maintain her "hijab" but haram to stone her on a flat ground and risk her "hijab".

    It is halal to let young grils burn in fire but haram to rescue them if they do not have hijab.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wvwvw View Post
    Savage? Everyone in the medieval Nordic world was a Viking.
    Vikings = pirats from scandinavia... Most of germanic people living in central Europe were cousins of scandinavians..


    ”Human rights apply to all and are based on the idea that all people are born free and entitled to make their own decisions over their own lives. Human rights include the right not to be discriminated against, freedom of speech, the rights of women and children, freedom of thought and religion, the right to education and the right to health.”
    Does the concept of ownership mean anything to you? ... Freedom of speech ? If i call you bastard ?

    Rights don't exist in "nature"...

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    To Levant Christians

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    Neither.
    I'd say they're closer to western Europeans rather than northern Europeans.
    I've had lots of troubles,so I write jolly tales.
    ----------------------------------------------------- Louisa May Alcott

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    Quote Originally Posted by renaissance12 View Post
    Ok .. but it remains to explain what this Nordic culture is even if it is influenced by the culture of southern Europe .. There must be something Nordic .. otherwise it would make no sense to talk about Nordic culture ..

    For example .. Jan van Eyck, The Arnolfini portrait....The Virgin of Chancellor Rolin


    ( Only Flemish painters can compete with the Italians.. of course some spanish/french/german painters are among the greatest painters all time.. but they came later... )



    Flemish people are West Europeans,Not Northern Europeans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Token View Post
    I see that South Europeans feel a strong connection to the Europeans nation across the Mediterranean, but what about non-European Mediterraneans?
    Palermo Sicily ... With which society could the Sicilians have affinities?





    Palermo XIX centuries



    Film: Gattopardo.


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    Mediterranean European culture is very foreign to me. It's warm and welcoming (which is great), but not necessarily something that I feel closely related to.

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