Irish and East Slavic - a secret connection (+ Irish/English comparison from my own eyes)

[Daco Celtic]

Interesting topic. In the context of Europe, Eastern Slavic people seem to have a fair amount of genetic distance from Irish. Even Croatians, Serbians, Romanians are closer to Irish on the Global25 nMonte Runner than Ukrainians, Belorussian, or Russians. It goes to show that PCAs and calculators don't always match up neatly with phenotypes.

Distance from Irish (Global25 nMonte Runner)

Croatian:Average 4.9275
Serbian:Average 6.4023
Romanian:Average 6.4239
Ukrainian:Average 6.9174
Russian_Kostroma:Average 8.4621
Russian_Orel:Average 7.2988
Russian_Voronez:Average 7.3444
Russian_Smolensk:Average 7.5036
Belarusian:Average 7.7216

[Laag]

What about Dido?



I don't think she looks particularly Baltic / NE European but she's a common enough British Isles type that looks shifted that way.

Yes, on the second photo she give me some NEUP vibe but as I've said many times before we don't know what all those girls that people are posting on here really look like because they have tons of makeup and all photos are photoshopped. Many North-East European girls with tons of makeup have pseudo Western vibe.
For example this is Russian

On the left is how she really looks.
This how she looks with tons of makeup and on the photoshopped photo. I posted her some time ago and some TA users said "she's Atlantid pass in the British Isles". Basically she's simple Baltid, pass in North-East Europe.

[Grace O'Malley]

A Finnish member on here a while back said that Kenneth Branagh could pass as Finnish.

From my observation the Northwest Irish (where my paternal line is from) are more likely to have the rounder features and snub noses. They also have the freckled skin and more brown hair and also red hair while the Munster Irish are more likely to be Keltid Nordid with more blonds and brunets. Irish do have a high amount of ANE from looking at the G25 they have the highest amounts in Britain and Ireland and on a similar level to the Norwegians. That might give them more a pseudo Slavic look. I seem to have some ancient connection to Poland but that could be more a Bronze Age thing.

[Grace O'Malley]

Interesting topic. In the context of Europe, Eastern Slavic people seem to have a fair amount of genetic distance from Irish. Even Croatians, Serbians, Romanians are closer to Irish on the Global25 nMonte Runner than Ukrainians, Belorussian, or Russians. It goes to show that PCAs and calculators don't always match up neatly with phenotypes.

Distance from Irish (Global25 nMonte Runner)

Croatian:Average 4.9275
Serbian:Average 6.4023
Romanian:Average 6.4239
Ukrainian:Average 6.9174
Russian_Kostroma:Average 8.4621
Russian_Orel:Average 7.2988
Russian_Voronez:Average 7.3444
Russian_Smolensk:Average 7.5036
Belarusian:Average 7.7216

What is interesting though is that Irish are as close to Ukrainians and Russians as they are to Spanish. That's something which is very interesting in itself.

[Laag]

This Irish Blogger Grace Mongey can pass as "dark" NEUP. But I don't think this type is common among Irish people.


Coon said.

During the Late Pleistocene age, the post-glacial Mesolithic cultural period, descendants of Upper Palaeolithic hunters lived in North Africa, in most of Europe, and in western Siberia, where some of them merged into the ancestors of the mongoloid group of humanity. Even during the Upper Palaeolithic cultural period in western Europe, some of the hunting peoples showed incipiently mongoloid racial tendencies. Among the living descendants of these hunters, these tendencies are more common in the eastern groups than among those living in the west.

FIG.5 (1 view). A Finn from Vasa (S. Ostrobothnia), who is anthropometrically and morphologically very close to the Irishman from Leitrim. The same curly hair, and the same conformation of the forehead, lips, and nose have produced a striking similarity. This and other evidence indicate that features which in Finns are often popularly supposed to be mongoloid are actually of European Upper Palaeolithic inspiration.

The examples of "dark" NEUP.
Finnish girl

The girls from Petroskoi

[Grace O'Malley]

This Irish Blogger Grace Mongey can pass as "dark" NEUP. But I don't think this type is common among Irish people.


Coon said.




FIG.5 (1 view). A Finn from Vasa (S. Ostrobothnia), who is anthropometrically and morphologically very close to the Irishman from Leitrim. The same curly hair, and the same conformation of the forehead, lips, and nose have produced a striking similarity. This and other evidence indicate that features which in Finns are often popularly supposed to be mongoloid are actually of European Upper Palaeolithic inspiration.

The examples of dark NEUP.
Finnish girl

The girls from Petroskoi

You'd be surprised. It isn't that uncommon.

[Jana]

Yes, on the second photo she give me some NEUP vibe but as I've said many times before we don't know what all those girls that people are posting on here really look like because they have tons of makeup and all photos are photoshopped. Many North-East European girls with tons of makeup have pseudo Western vibe.
For example this is Russian

On the left is how she really looks.
This how she looks with tons of makeup and on the photoshopped photo. I posted her some time ago and some TA users said "she's Atlantid pass in the British Isles". Basically she's simple Baltid, pass in North-East Europe.

Come on, this girl easy pass in UK/Ireland. Most people arent so detailed oriented like us anthrotards

[Laag]

Come on, this girl easy pass in UK/Ireland. Most people arent so detailed oriented like us anthrotards

Do you think this Croatian girl can pass as Irish. Actually looks like that Irish blogger to be honest. Similar type in my eyes.

[Grace O'Malley]

Do you think this Croatian girl can pass as Irish. Actually looks like that Irish blogger to be honest. Similar type in my eyes.

I personally don't think so. The Irish blogger has more broader features. This girl has a very different look IMO. The Irish girl looks pseudo Mongoloid whereas this girl doesn't.

[PaleoEuropean]

As far as I know, both Brünn and Ladogan are Western and Eastern branches of the Upper Paleolithic type, respectively. Perhaps that might explain something?

Ladogan is a highly hybridized and reduced phenotype. Lodogan skulls like like alien baby skulls, they aren't Upper Paleolithic, just influenced by upper Paleolithic if that makes sense. Only Brunn and Borreby are upper paleothic. Cro-Magnid would be lower Paleothic. Ladogin is considered a Siberoid phenotype with Eastern European influences (Baltoid). Ladogin is a less Asiatic Lappid and a more Asiatic East Baltid.