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    Yes, I think Serbs and Croats came from White Serbia [North Serbia] and White Croatia [North Croatia].

    It was the 2nd invasion, not the 1st one described by Byzantine authors quoted in my previous post.

    White Croats and White Serbs probably came from areas of Poland, or even East Germany (see: Sorbs).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    On a Polish forum we have a discussion about the origins and migrations of Slavs.

    One guy there claims, that when Slavs invaded the Balkans, they initially did not mix with the locals. He claims that 100% pure Slavs existed in the Balkans for centuries after the invasion.

    He claims that mixing between Slavs and Vlachs/locals started only after few centuries.

    Maybe you score 30% Masovia (your region within Poland) because some of your ancestors come from a village where genetically purely Slavic people lived until recently (500 years ago?).

    What does your Ancestry Timeline say ???

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    BTW, there were also Poles in Bosnia in the late 1800s and early 1900s (they came there from Austrian-ruled Galicia after Bosnia was captured by Austria from the Ottomans):

    http://polacy-w-bosni.pl/


    "You most likely had a parent, grandparent, or great-grandparent who was 100% Greek & Balkan. This person was likely born between 1900 and 1960."

    "You most likely had a grandparent, great-grandparent, or second-great-grandparent who was 100% Eastern European. This person was likely born between 1870 and 1930."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tvrtko View Post
    "You most likely had a grandparent, great-grandparent, or second-great-grandparent who was 100% Eastern European. This person was likely born between 1870 and 1930."
    Wow, interesting. Maybe it was really one of Poles in Bosnia. What about your matches, do you have Polish matches?:

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...your-relatives

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    Wow, interesting. Maybe it was really one of Poles in Bosnia. What about your matches, do you have any Polish matches?:

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...your-relatives
    It says I don't have access to the page

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tvrtko View Post
    It says I don't have access to the page
    This is the alphabetical list of settlements in Bosnia where more than 5 Polish families (rodz.) lived as of 1938:

    http://polacy-w-bosni.pl/?alfabetycz...y-swiatowej,20

    "The list of settlements, comprising more than 5 Polish families, situated in Bosnia and adjacent areas in 1938 y.)

    pow. = county

    Babanovci (Babinowce) pow. PrDjavor, 20 rodź.

    Bakinci Donji i Gornji (Bakińce) pow. Banja Luka, 100 rodź.

    Bakśic Lug, pow. Nasice, 26 rodź.

    Cadjavicki Lug, pow. Donji Miholac, 6 rodź.

    Celinować (zw. też Cerovljani) (Celinowacz), pow. Gradiśka, 100 rodź.

    Ćorle pow. Prnjawor, 7 rodź.

    Ćukali (Czukale) pow. Prnjavor, 30 rodź. 176 głów.

    Detlak, pow. Derventa, 20 rodź.

    Devetina (Dziewięcina), pow. Prnjavor, 110 rodź.

    Dombrova (zw. też Pastireva) pow. Bos. Novi, 50 rodź.

    Dubrava St. i Nova (Dąbrowa), pow. Prnjavor, 189 rodź.

    Galipovci (Galipowce), pow. Prnjavor, 15 rodź.

    Glogovac, pow. Prnjavor, 6 rodź.

    Grabaśnica, pow Prnjavor, 70 rodź.

    Grabik Ilova, pow. Prnjavor, 12 rodź.

    Gumjera, pow. Prnjavor, 270 rodż.

    Hrvacani, pow. Prnjavor, 6 rodź.

    Ilićani (Iliczany), pow. Prnjavor, 100 głów.

    Jedovica, pow. Prnjavor, 35 rodź

    Jośike, pow. Prnjavor, 15 rodź.

    Kalendarovci (Kalendarowce), pow. Derventa, 20 rodź.

    Kamenica (Kamienica), pow. Prnjavor, 5 rodź.

    Karaći (Karacze), pow. Prnjavor, 13 rodź.

    Klenik, pow. Donji Miholac, 8 rodź.

    Kokorski Lug, pow. Prnjavor, 14 rodź.

    Konjuhovac (Koniuchowce), pow. Prnjavor, 28 rodź.

    Kukavica, pow. Drventa, 10 rodź.

    Krećani (Kreczany), pow. Oerventa 10 rodź.

    Karajzovac (Krajzowce). pow. Bosanska Gradiśka, 10 rodź

    Kukulje, pow. Bos Gradiśka, 8 rodź.

    Kunova, pow. Prnjavor, 120 rodź.

    Lepenica, pow. Prnjavor, 25 rodź.

    Laminci, pow. Bos. Gradiśka, 8 rodź.

    Liśnja wraz z okolicą, pow. Prnjavor, 55 rodź.

    Luzani, pow. Derventa, 5 rodź.

    Maćino Brdo, pow. Prnjavor, 17 rodź.

    Mahovljani, pow. Banja Luka, 25 rodź.

    Malici pow. Derventa, 5 rodź.

    Martinac Novi, pow. Prnjawor, 1677 people in 1931, ca. 1800 in 1938

    Martinac Stari, pow. Prnjavor 18 rodź.

    Miljevać (Milewacz), pow. Bos. Gradisśka, 100 rodź.

    Modran, pow. Derventa, 5 rodź.

    Mravica Srpska, pow. Prnjavor 9 rodź.

    Nova Topola (former name Windhorst), pow. Bos. Gradiśka, 20 rodź.

    Novo Selo, pow. Derventa, 15 rodź.

    Noźicko, pow. Prnjavor, 15 rodź., 134 głów

    Osojka, pow. Derventa, 8 rodź.

    Paremija, pow. Prnjavor, 7 rodź.

    Pleani (Plehany), pow. Derventa, 6 rodź.

    Prosjek, pow. Prnjavor, 10 rodź.

    Prnjavica, pow. Prnjavor, 7 rodź.

    Prnjavor pow. Prnjavor, 25 rodź.

    Rakovac (Rakowiec), pow. Prnjavor, 40 rodź.

    Seliśce, pow. Prnjavor, 40 rodź.

    Sitneź, pow. Prnjavor, 15 rodź.

    Smrtić Donji (Śmiertnica) pow. Prnjavor, 5 rodź.

    Smrtić Gornji (Śmiertnica), pow. Prnjavor, 20 rodź.

    Srdjevici (Srdżewice), pow. Prnjavor, 60 rodź.

    Staro Petrovo Selo, pow. Nowa Gradiśka, 18 rodź.

    Strbci, pow. Prnjavor, 21 rodź.

    Suśnjari, pow. Derwenta, 10 rodź.

    Trośelji (Troszelje), pow. Bos. Gradiska, 20 rodź.

    Vućjak (Wuczjak), pow. Prnjawor, 7 rodź."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    This is the alphabetical list of settlements in Bosnia where more than 5 Polish families (rodz.) lived as of 1938:

    http://polacy-w-bosni.pl/?alfabetycz...y-swiatowej,20

    "The list of settlements, comprising more than 5 Polish families, situated in Bosnia and adjacent areas in 1938 y.)

    pow. = county

    Babanovci (Babinowce) pow. PrDjavor, 20 rodź.

    Bakinci Donji i Gornji (Bakińce) pow. Banja Luka, 100 rodź.

    Bakśic Lug, pow. Nasice, 26 rodź.

    Cadjavicki Lug, pow. Donji Miholac, 6 rodź.

    Celinować (zw. też Cerovljani) (Celinowacz), pow. Gradiśka, 100 rodź.

    Ćorle pow. Prnjawor, 7 rodź.

    Ćukali (Czukale) pow. Prnjavor, 30 rodź. 176 głów.

    Detlak, pow. Derventa, 20 rodź.

    Devetina (Dziewięcina), pow. Prnjavor, 110 rodź.

    Dombrova (zw. też Pastireva) pow. Bos. Novi, 50 rodź.

    Dubrava St. i Nova (Dąbrowa), pow. Prnjavor, 189 rodź.

    Galipovci (Galipowce), pow. Prnjavor, 15 rodź.

    Glogovac, pow. Prnjavor, 6 rodź.

    Grabaśnica, pow Prnjavor, 70 rodź.

    Grabik Ilova, pow. Prnjavor, 12 rodź.

    Gumjera, pow. Prnjavor, 270 rodż.

    Hrvacani, pow. Prnjavor, 6 rodź.

    Ilićani (Iliczany), pow. Prnjavor, 100 głów.

    Jedovica, pow. Prnjavor, 35 rodź

    Jośike, pow. Prnjavor, 15 rodź.

    Kalendarovci (Kalendarowce), pow. Derventa, 20 rodź.

    Kamenica (Kamienica), pow. Prnjavor, 5 rodź.

    Karaći (Karacze), pow. Prnjavor, 13 rodź.

    Klenik, pow. Donji Miholac, 8 rodź.

    Kokorski Lug, pow. Prnjavor, 14 rodź.

    Konjuhovac (Koniuchowce), pow. Prnjavor, 28 rodź.

    Kukavica, pow. Drventa, 10 rodź.

    Krećani (Kreczany), pow. Oerventa 10 rodź.

    Karajzovac (Krajzowce). pow. Bosanska Gradiśka, 10 rodź

    Kukulje, pow. Bos Gradiśka, 8 rodź.

    Kunova, pow. Prnjavor, 120 rodź.

    Lepenica, pow. Prnjavor, 25 rodź.

    Laminci, pow. Bos. Gradiśka, 8 rodź.

    Liśnja wraz z okolicą, pow. Prnjavor, 55 rodź.

    Luzani, pow. Derventa, 5 rodź.

    Maćino Brdo, pow. Prnjavor, 17 rodź.

    Mahovljani, pow. Banja Luka, 25 rodź.

    Malici pow. Derventa, 5 rodź.

    Martinac Novi, pow. Prnjawor, 1677 people in 1931, ca. 1800 in 1938

    Martinac Stari, pow. Prnjavor 18 rodź.

    Miljevać (Milewacz), pow. Bos. Gradisśka, 100 rodź.

    Modran, pow. Derventa, 5 rodź.

    Mravica Srpska, pow. Prnjavor 9 rodź.

    Nova Topola (former name Windhorst), pow. Bos. Gradiśka, 20 rodź.

    Novo Selo, pow. Derventa, 15 rodź.

    Noźicko, pow. Prnjavor, 15 rodź., 134 głów

    Osojka, pow. Derventa, 8 rodź.

    Paremija, pow. Prnjavor, 7 rodź.

    Pleani (Plehany), pow. Derventa, 6 rodź.

    Prosjek, pow. Prnjavor, 10 rodź.

    Prnjavica, pow. Prnjavor, 7 rodź.

    Prnjavor pow. Prnjavor, 25 rodź.

    Rakovac (Rakowiec), pow. Prnjavor, 40 rodź.

    Seliśce, pow. Prnjavor, 40 rodź.

    Sitneź, pow. Prnjavor, 15 rodź.

    Smrtić Donji (Śmiertnica) pow. Prnjavor, 5 rodź.

    Smrtić Gornji (Śmiertnica), pow. Prnjavor, 20 rodź.

    Srdjevici (Srdżewice), pow. Prnjavor, 60 rodź.

    Staro Petrovo Selo, pow. Nowa Gradiśka, 18 rodź.

    Strbci, pow. Prnjavor, 21 rodź.

    Suśnjari, pow. Derwenta, 10 rodź.

    Trośelji (Troszelje), pow. Bos. Gradiska, 20 rodź.

    Vućjak (Wuczjak), pow. Prnjawor, 7 rodź."
    That's all in Bosnian Serb territory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    Wow, interesting. Maybe it was really one of Poles in Bosnia. What about your matches, do you have Polish matches?:

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...your-relatives



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    Poor Tvrtko. His thread was derailed.

    Tvrtko, i like your username.

    Have you uploaded your raw data to Gedmatch?

    If so, give me your Eurogenes K36 results.

    And congratulations on your results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    All Southslavs are split in Balkan and Eastern European components. It is not unusual, it doesnt mean you are part polish.
    Very true, it’s eastern Poland is near the slavic homeland, so it makes sense

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    Yes you should upload your raw data to GEDmatch.

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