Subtypes of the Iranic/Aryan race

[MS85]

With Iranic people I mean people who are related to the ancient Aryans (Western Iranians) like the Medes, Persians and Parthians. It is know that the Medes are actually the oldest of those groups and were responsible for the formation of the Persians and Parthians.

We can consider the Medes (Madai, Manj, Magi) as proto-Western Iranic people who evolved from more older Aryan people who called themselves Matiene (Mitanni/Kassites) or Umman Manda (in Semitic Akkadian dialect)

According to me Iranic/Aryan race can be divided at least by three different subtypes.

First, the Western types are Aryan Northern Mesopotamian-Zagrosian subtype.
Second type is Aryan Caspian Sea subtype
And the third type is SouthEastern Persian Gulf subtype.

These 3 subtypes can be found among all Aryan people, but in different proportions. Kurds do mostly belong to the Aryan Zagrosian-Northern Mesopotamian subtype, but there are clearly other Aryan subtypes in Kurdistan. Persians are like Kurds but have also Aryan Persian Gulf subtype.


Persians vs. Kurds:




3D model of the Aryan Mede (ancient Kurds):

[Kyp]

please stop trolling.

[lameduck]

Pashtun man from Pak , I think Irano Afghan

[Pahli]

please stop trolling.

Pure Aryan specimen, BRUH MOMENT

[Ayetooey]

True Aryans; this is where R1 carriers trace their lineage.

[MS85]

Pashtun man from Pak , I think Irano Afghan

In general Pashtuns are an intermediate group between Tajiks (Persians) and Indic people (Sindhi, Punjabi). But Pashtuns are closer to Indic Punjabi than to Western Iranic people.

Persians of Central Asia, like Tajiks, Dari, Almak, Hazara can be seen as Aryans of Caspian Sea subtype and Persians.

[MS85]

True Aryans; this is where R1 carriers trace their lineage.

Real true Aryans were responsible for the Northern Sumerian Ubaid and Samara civilization, Leyla-Tepe, BMAC Aryans, Mitanni/Kassites Kingdoms and they also build the Median Empire that later evolved into the Persian Empire.

True Aryans speak an Aryan/Iranic language and are related to the ancient Aryans of the Aryan Empires.

[lameduck]

In general Pashtuns are an intermediate group between Tajiks (Persians) and Indic people (Sindhi, Punjabi). But Pashtuns are closer to Indic Punjabi than to Western Iranic people.

Persians of Central Asia, like Tajiks, Dari, Almak, Hazara can be seen as Aryans of Caspian Sea subtype and Persians.

well Pashtuns have more aryan ancestry than kurds(ask any knowledgeable member), its vice versa lots of Punjabis like jatts also have lot of aryan ancestry(hence pull toward Pashtuns). Anyways I just read your OP you want to limit it to West Iranics. fair enough

[Kyp]

well Pashtuns have more aryan ancestry than kurds(ask any knowledgeable member), its vice versa lots of Punjabis like jatts also have lot of aryan ancestry(hence pull toward Pashtuns). Anyways I just read your OP you want to limit it to West Iranics. fair enough

You've just opened Pandora's Box..

[MS85]

Leyla Tepe is one of the Aryan civilizations that is mostly ignored by most people. Aryans of the Leyla Tepe civilization were most likely of Caspian Sea subtype.
Aryan Leyla-Tepe civilization influenced the Maykop and Trialeti Kurgan cultures.

I’m not sure about the BMAC, but I think that BMAC was also most likely of the Caspian Sea subtype.

Also, not much is known about the Aryan Median MAGI and I want to know more about them. Magi were part of the Medes. Kurmanji are related to those magi and therefore I’m sure that Aryan MAGI were of the Aryan Zagrosian subtype.