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    I don't know why, but Americans are forcing us to take as much Arab land as possible. I don't like this idea, because if Kurds take land outside historic Kurdistan,



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigranes View Post
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    Yellow part is Rojava. 70% is outside historic Kurdistan, this is crazy! All we don't have is Afrin, because infantile Putin is angry that we work together with the US and he took it away from us to blackmail us, lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by MS85 View Post
    Yellow part is Rojava. 70% is outside historic Kurdistan, this is crazy! All we don't have is Afrin
    Where's that so called "historic Kurdistan" located exactly? Disneyland? The last time I checked the ancient maps of that region, I couldn't see such land named as "Kurdistan"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigranes View Post
    Where's that so called "historic Kurdistan" located exactly? Disneyland? The last time I checked the ancient maps of that region, I couldn't see such land named as "Kurdistan"...
    Thanks for asking. I was waiting for it.

    This is real Rojava:




    A map of Kurdistan from 1600 or 400 years ago!




    Historic Kurdistan from 1892:






    Here is a historic movement of the Kurds/Medes:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigranes View Post
    Where's that so called "historic Kurdistan" located exactly? Disneyland? The last time I checked the ancient maps of that region, I couldn't see such land named as "Kurdistan"...
    I'm not sure about the theoretical ancient homeland, but it didn't include the Ottoman Armenian Highlands. There has been a longtime rumor going around which claims that Ottoman Young Turks promised loot and a Kurdistan, provided that Kurds would help obliterate the Ottoman Armenians. The Kurds did help obliterate them, but Ataturk's Turkey welched on their promise; hence, we have our present day struggle (after Kurds filled the emptied land).

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    false,
    christian populations groups lived for hundreds of years under muslim rule, but when Russia marched into the Caucasus, they implemented ethnic cleansing operations, the Circassians were killed and exiled, their homeland taken and settled by Russians and other Christians and everybody at that time knew what would happen to the Kurds and Turks if they loose the war, it was simply outright fear, while everybody knows about the Armenian Genocide, it seems the World has forgotten the circassian massacres and the colonial policy of Russia in the 19th century which was to uproot the Muslims and empowering Christian Groups, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circassian_genocide, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circas...man_Empire.jpg

    there was simply a huge fear of this outcome which led the Kurds and Turks to react the way they reacted, the Circassian Genocide is forgotten today but at that time it was one of the main motivations to fight back any further russian aggression into the territories of the Iranian and Otoman empire, it was the next logical step to repeat this in Anatolia or to conquer even Istanbul and reestablish it as the center of orthodox christianity.
    Armenians and other Christians in the Empire leaned toward Russia and they openly agitated and talked about the removal of the Muslims, stoking fear and panic which resulted in the events of the WW1. The Russians even settled Germans in the region, especially in Kars and wanted to march much deeper in to these lands.
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