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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean View Post
    I always thought he was Iranian but he is Indian, probably Mughal or Indo-Aryan
    He is mostly irani heritage wise his people were refugee in india from iran didn't mixed that much with native.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rajputprincess View Post
    He is mostly irani heritage wise his people were refugee in india from iran didn't mixed that much with native.

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    Yea when he had the nose job he looks 100% Pakistani
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    He looks Dravidian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayetooey View Post
    More like this.

    Norwegian singer Jahn Teigen( Norwegian are one of the most Indo-European ethnicities of Europe hand in hand with the Irish and the southern Swede):

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    Iranid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean View Post
    I always thought he was Iranian but he is Indian, probably Mughal or Indo-Aryan
    He is ethnically Persian whose family settled in India centuries ago. Persians in India are 100 % pure as far as paternal lines are considered but 55 % indian, maternally. This is why Freddie is brachycephalic. He is like Iranid mostly but has indo brachid tendencies as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean View Post
    Yea when he had the nose job he looks 100% Pakistani
    He never had any nose job. Loosing and gaining a lot of weight changes your nose shape considerably. And no, he never looked particularly Pakistani(that again depends because Pakistan is too diverse so unless you specify an ethnicity it is difficult,but in no way did he look like an average Pakistani) at any point.
    I would classify him as Iranid+Armenid+ CM. Kind of almost like Borat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meson View Post
    He is ethnically Persian whose family settled in India centuries ago. Persians in India are 100 % pure as far as paternal lines are considered but 55 % indian, maternally. This is why Freddie is brachycephalic. He is like Iranid mostly but has indo brachid tendencies as well.
    If you are considering mtDNA as "maternal lineage" then that doesnt account autosomal DNA(which is inherited from both mother and father), which counts for most of the total DNA(along with Y-DNA as well) and is almost purely iranic in the case of parsis. So the modern estimate of their maternal lines would be around 25-30% indian.

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    Among present-day populations, the Parsis are genetically closest to Iranian and the Caucasus populations rather than their South Asian neighbors. They also share the highest number of haplotypes with present-day Iranians and we estimate that the admixture of the Parsis with Indian populations occurred ~1,200 years ago. Enriched homozygosity in the Parsi reflects their recent isolation and inbreeding. We also observed 48% South-Asian-specific mitochondrial lineages among the ancient samples, which might have resulted from the assimilation of local females during the initial settlement. Finally, we show that Parsis are genetically closer to Neolithic Iranians than to modern Iranians, who have witnessed a more recent wave of admixture from the Near East.
    https://genomebiology.biomedcentral....059-017-1244-9
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hungus View Post
    If you are considering mtDNA as "maternal lineage" then according to the latest study done on this subject states it to be close to 25% of the mtDNA to be south asian in origin.

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    According to what I read before in a Pakistani newspaper, the Parsis in Pakistani originally migrated there from Bombay or Gujarat.
    I have seen the 55% Indian maternal lines before. It must have been an older study.

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    A study of mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) variation reported 60% of South Asia lineages among the Pakistani Parsi population [23], whereas the male lineages based on Y chromosome admixture estimates were almost exclusively Iranian [22]. Based on these results, a male-mediated migration followed by assimilation of local South Asia females was concluded [23].
    Table S11 and supplementary text). Interestingly, we observed 48% South-Asian-specific lineages (haplogroups M2, M3, M5, and R5) among the ancient Parsi samples, which could potentially be explained in two ways. First, these haplogroups might have been carried by the migration of Zoroastrian refugees from Fars (Iran), a possibility that is supported by the presence of these clades in present-day Persian samples (9.9%) [34]. Second, they might have resulted from the assimilation of local females during the initial settlement. The comparison of ancient and modern samples thus identified maternal lineages that can be considered as founding (surviving or lost), as well as those that were subsequently assimilated
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    Among present-day populations, the Parsis are genetically closest to Iranian and the Caucasus populations rather than their South Asian neighbors. They also share the highest number of haplotypes with present-day Iranians and we estimate that the admixture of the Parsis with Indian populations occurred ~1,200 years ago. Enriched homozygosity in the Parsi reflects their recent isolation and inbreeding. We also observed 48% South-Asian-specific mitochondrial lineages among the ancient samples, which might have resulted from the assimilation of local females during the initial settlement. Finally, we show that Parsis are genetically closer to Neolithic Iranians than to modern Iranians, who have witnessed a more recent wave of admixture from the Near East.

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