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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenma de Pegasus View Post
    A lot of others states too, Minas Gerais is just the champion.

    Only Minas Gerais have more than 7 milion white colonials easily.
    there arent even white colonials brazilians on 23andMe LOL they are all mix with other european groups or have recent portuguese ancestry
    unless you can show me results of those colonial brazilians, you really have nothing much to prove at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlito's Way View Post
    there arent even white colonials brazilians on 23andMe LOL they are all mix with other european groups or have recent portuguese ancestry
    unless you can show me results of those colonial brazilians, you really have nothing much to prove at all
    Curupira was fully colonial from Minas Gerais and he was 99-100% European. He had a German ancestor, but from the 18th century (so colonial he).
    I could find more examples if you want.

    Brazil has heavy disparity between colonials, some colonial regions have less European admixture than others. Minas Gerais, for example, received 800.000 Portuguese settlers in the 18th century, other regions barely received large numbers of Portuguese. I'd say most of the European input in parts of Minas Gerais and Central Brazil is due to Colonial Portuguese settlers.

    Here you can check that only Minas Gerais region received more Portuguese in one century than the whole Hispanic America received Spaniards from 16th to 18th centuries: https://journals.openedition.org/nuevomundo/63251

    What we could discuss is if Mexico has the oldest 80%+ colonials, people living in America since the 16th century. I think it's very likely because before the 18th century Brazil hardly attracted Iberian settlers.

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    If their Euro ancestry was of Anglo/German stock they'd look considerably more "Euro" Most of these look like dark Middle Eastern/Turkish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berenice View Post
    Curupira was fully colonial from Minas Gerais and he was 99-100% European. He had a German ancestor, but from the 18th century (so colonial he).
    I could find more examples if you want.

    Brazil has heavy disparity between colonials, some colonial regions have less European admixture than others. Minas Gerais, for example, received 800.000 Portuguese settlers in the 18th century, other regions barely received large numbers of Portuguese. I'd say most of the European input in parts of Minas Gerais and Central Brazil is due to Colonial Portuguese settlers.

    Here you can check that only Minas Gerais region received more Portuguese in one century than the whole Hispanic America received Spaniards from 16th to 18th centuries: https://journals.openedition.org/nuevomundo/63251

    What we could discuss is if Mexico has the oldest 80%+ colonials, people living in America since the 16th century. I think it's very likely because before the 18th century Brazil hardly attracted Iberian settlers.
    But as I saw in many DNA exams, most colonial mineiros settled in the range between 93 to 97% Euro are very frequent, not only 99/100% ones. Of course the last group exist, but the first it's very common too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erronkari View Post
    But as I saw in many DNA exams, most colonial mineiros settled in the range between 93 to 97% Euro are very frequent, not only 99/100% ones. Of course the last group exist, but the first it's very common too.
    99-100% euro is even rare for recent post-independence inmigrants, not only in Brazil, but everywhere in Latin America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erronkari View Post
    But as I saw in many DNA exams, most colonial mineiros settled in the range between 93 to 97% Euro are very frequent, not only 99/100% ones. Of course the last group exist, but the first it's very common too.
    99-100% European isn't very common among colonial mineiros, most are in between 85-95% European.

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    Uruguay is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    Uruguay is.
    Most of the Uruguayan population descends from post-19th century settlers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berenice View Post
    Curupira was fully colonial from Minas Gerais and he was 99-100% European. He had a German ancestor, but from the 18th century (so colonial he).
    he was not 99-100% European LOL
    he also had recent European ancestors, one being from Germany
    and an Amerindian mtdna

    I could find more examples if you want.

    Brazil has heavy disparity between colonials, some colonial regions have less European admixture than others. Minas Gerais, for example, received 800.000 Portuguese settlers in the 18th century, other regions barely received large numbers of Portuguese. I'd say most of the European input in parts of Minas Gerais and Central Brazil is due to Colonial Portuguese settlers.

    Here you can check that only Minas Gerais region received more Portuguese in one century than the whole Hispanic America received Spaniards from 16th to 18th centuries: https://journals.openedition.org/nuevomundo/63251
    Find me a DNA result of those Mina Gerais with all colonial Portuguese ancestry who are over 80% European
    then you can further proof what you are claiming is true
    so far, all the Brazilians that are over 80% European that I have seen on 23andMe have recent European heritage and are never 100% of colonial background


    What we could discuss is if Mexico has the oldest 80%+ colonials, people living in America since the 16th century. I think it's very likely because before the 18th century Brazil hardly attracted Iberian settlers.
    the people I posted are all of 100% colonial background
    this is why I made this thread because so far, I have only seen Mexican colonials with such high Euro admixture having no recent European ancestry

    Colonial Mexicans are also the most diverse population of Latin America too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomasso View Post
    If their Euro ancestry was of Anglo/German stock they'd look considerably more "Euro" Most of these look like dark Middle Eastern/Turkish.
    those people I posted have JEWISH ancestry because their areas was populated or founded by large Jewish families
    they are not just of European background but also of Jewish colonial roots

    they are not going to look European if you have been mixing with Jews for so long, those middle eastern traits will be conserved throughout generations and generations

    One of the wealthiest families of Monterrey, they look very Jewish/Middle Eastern and they are of colonial background

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