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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    I prefer christian albanians over muslim ones. Islam and communism has ruined this country.
    There's no difference. Plus the 2 have intermarried each other to the point of indistinguishable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojnik View Post
    Nah he was Shqipe. His name was Leka.
    Some do believe that yes.
    However even the claim that he was Greek is a bit controversial. I prefer "Hellene" since western scholars cant be so sure the Ancient Macedonians were distinct enough to warrant their own classification or if he was part of the wider greek ethos. He called himself macedonian though so lets just leave it at that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    I prefer christian albanians over muslim ones. Islam and communism has ruined this country.
    Pashko vasa was right when he said "the religion of the albanian is albania" , religion tends to divide people, although as aspar said the one that stayed orthodox wer sadly the ones that would get assimilated easier. Catholics in italy got assimilated, muslims in turkey assimilated but the fact that albania proper was surrounded by christian nations mad the muslims there unlikely to interrmarry and get absorbed.This changed ofc during Hoxha

    I would personally say that Bektashis were Quite nationalist too,Naim Frasheri, Ali pasha tepelena and even Hoxha (initially)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uski View Post
    Never heard that one before but hey its your opinion,but if so how are they greek?
    The Macedonians were Greek, but of course you mean something entirely different. Those fellas are not Greeks indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crn Volk View Post
    All Albanians in N Macedonia should become Orthodox. It would make life easier.
    They'd rather become Atheists. Your priests are no less perverted than our priests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojnik View Post
    There isn't many of them around. I've never met any myself. But for the ones that exist, i'd say it's a good thing.
    Where would you find them? I've heard they do not befriend Kangaroos or Australopitheki...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uski View Post
    From what ive read theres around 75 k around of them today,including upper and even lower reka(mijacija)villages around gostivar,villages around krusevo and bitola, bitola propper, migrants to skopje and 2 villages in kavadari mrezicko and konopiste, however i doubt most of these would see themselves as albanian
    Muslim Slavs see themselves as Albanians. You can't have it all!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crn Volk View Post
    Is that such a bad thing? The more the merrier
    Ask those Slavophone Patriotic Greeks about it. The more the merrier!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspar View Post
    I admire them although what helped for the Albanian people and language be preserved was that they switched to Catholic and Muslim faith.

    Had they remained Orthodox, the majority of the Albanians today would have been absorbed by the Greeks and the Serbs, much what happened to Makedonishtanis as many had been absorbed by the Bulgarians and the Greeks.

    So you can look on it as a pact with the Devil but a necessary one in order for the Albanian nation to survive.
    I've got news for you. Those Orthodox Albanians view themselves as Makedonishtanis, not as Greeks.

    Furthermore, the Muslim Albanians didn't want to have an independent Albania at all, but to remain in the Ottoman empire:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peasant_Revolt_in_Albania

    The Peasant Revolt in Albania,[1][2] also known as the Islamic Revolt or Muslim Uprising in Albania, was the uprising of peasants from central Albania, mostly Muslims but also others, against the regime of Prince Wilhelm of Wied during 1914, and was one of the reasons for the prince's withdrawal from the country, marking the fall of the Principality of Albania.[3] The revolt was led by Muslim leaders Haxhi Qamili, Arif Hiqmeti, Musa Qazimi and Mustafa Ndroqi.[4] As well as total amnesty, the rebels demanded the return of Albania to the suzerainty of the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire.
    Then at some point some Catholic Albanian tribes rebelled against the Muslim dominated Albania...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Mirdita

    The Republic of Mirdita(Republika e Mirditës) was a short-lived unrecognized republic declared in northern Albania by Marka Gjoni and his followers. It existed between 17 July and 20 November 1921. Gjoni led his Roman CatholicMirdita tribesmen in a rebellion against the Albanian regency and parliament established after the World War I. The Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes (later Yugoslavia), and its newly enthroned King Aleksandar Karadjordjevic backed Gjoni based on its interest of having another separatist region within Albania, weakening the newly created Albanian state and sharpening the religious antagonism.
    Gjoni proclaimed in Prizren the founding of an independent Republic of Mirdita. Gjoni was the only president of the republic. As the republic violated the sovereignty of the Albanian state, Albanian government troops fought and eventually extinguished the republic. The putative government of the republic was overrun by the Albanian government, though no real persecution fell on the main leaders. Gjoni fled to Yugoslavia, but later returned to Albania and remained active in the political life of the highlands until his death in 1925.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crn Volk View Post
    I hope you're not counting Mijaks as Orthodox Albanians.
    I am counting them as Orthodox Aromanians.

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