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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspar View Post
    Again how he was a Greek, what is the proof of that?
    Just because the Philistines had some cultural elements shared with the ancient Greeks doesn't make them Greek.
    Just because you have some cultural traits shared with ancient Macedonians doesn't make you Macedonian

    Deal with it or else i call mighty Stears to come and take you swarthy dwarf!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspar View Post
    I know he was a mixture of ancient Balkan people and Levantines or Anatolian.
    I am just tired of prescribing anything ancient to the Greeks.
    The ethnonym Philistines is clearly connected to people known as Pelasgians during the BA in the Balkans.
    These people's territories were conquered by the Doric Greeks and they the Pelasgians departed to Anatolia since then.
    That is what the historical accounts tell us about them
    Eh? Not really, no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamal900 View Post
    Well, we don't know the language of the Philistines, but their culture is very similar to the Aegean Greek cultures of ancient times, and really, their genetics shows it. Philistines were very likely Indo-Europeans, but the lack of inscriptions other than their personal names and so on makes it very difficult to say for sure which language branch of the Indo-European family tree does it belong to. The Philistines during the late Bronze age collapse and beyond were already admixed with Canaanites.
    They are a pre Greek people, that's how they were described by the Greeks themselves.
    There are many theories about their language, some connected more with the Thracian others with modern Albanian.
    One thing is for sure, you can't call the Philistines Greek!
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelasgians

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspar View Post
    Again how he was a Greek, what is the proof of that?
    Just because the Philistines had some cultural elements shared with the ancient Greeks doesn't make them Greek. One such cultural trait is the funeral mask shared by many ancient people of the Balkans. Many Thracian graves were excavated and funeral mask alike the one depicted in the Iliad were found.
    Do you just like to ignore what I said?
    Explain to me how the Pelasgians were Greeks?
    Did they speak Greek?
    How did they lost their place of living in the Balkans, mainly Macedonia?

    Pls, what's next? Thracians were Greeks too?
    http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2019/0...read-into.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspar View Post
    They are a pre Greek people, that's how they were described by the Greeks themselves.
    Greek or Pre Greek their origin or where they came from before they arrived in Israel and Palestine was in Greece they did not
    come from Bosnia or the Danube River

    Understand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamal900 View Post
    Eh? Not really, no.
    What you don't agree?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperDorian View Post
    Greek or Pre Greek their origin or where they came from before they arrived in Israel and Palestine was in Greece they did not
    come from Bosnia or the Danube River

    Understand?
    They lived on much more extensive territory than just modern Greece.
    They lived in modern Macedonia(not the Greek one of course), they also lived in Albania and Bulgaria.
    Do you understand that???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspar View Post
    They lived on much more extensive territory than just modern Greece.
    They lived in modern Macedonia(not the Greek one of course), they also lived in Albania and Bulgaria.
    Do you understand that???
    The core land was in Greece probably South Greece(Peloponnese) as even the name indicates alos the legends about Pelops and Kadmos
    The Talmud tells us that the only language the Torah could be translated into elegantly is Greek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspar View Post
    Good point!

    I somehow feel that many Northern Europeans just use the term "European" when they feel and for their own benefit but when it doesn't suit them then it's "We' and "You".

    No matter what, these Philistines have more to do with the Levantines then with most Europeans...
    Honestly, the more i hear about this stuff(like europeans claiming christianity, jesus and now phillistines), the more they remind me of "afro-centrists" who they all love to mock. Pretty hypocritical

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    Nothing in Davidski's article that mentions anything explicitly Greek.
    He just states his opinion that they came from Mediterranean Europe and also models them as half Minoans who are the best samples when it comes to any pre Greek people and of course the Minoans weren't Greeks.

    Plus there is another sample that my be connected with these Pelasgians or Sea people: http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2017/0...anian.html?m=1
    And this is his ydna: https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y23838/
    There are no Greeks found to belong to this subclade but there are Albanians and Armenians.

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