Is R1a underestimated in Romania ?

[Zmey Gorynych]

His type of R1a has nothing to do with Germanic people though, but has subclade common for eastern europe. It could be local.
From what I remember he cluster with Serbs like typical Translvanian Romanian

What branch is he? M458 or Z280?

[Jana]

What branch is he? M458 or Z280?

I think he is under Z280

[Jana]

Maybe there is sample bias in anthrogenica thread, simply more R1a than average but it's interesting especially in Wallachia
Truth be told minorities like Hungarians and Ukrainians should increase R1a in Romanians because they have more of it than they, but it is still interesting high frequency of R1a among those Romanian samples

[Zmey Gorynych]

Maybe there is sample bias in anthrogenica thread, simply more R1a than average but it's interesting especially in Wallachia

It could be that, a few more people who are R1a got tested. We wont know for sure until a conclusive study is conducted - say a dozen villages from each region get tested.

[Carpatz]

It could be that, a few more people who are R1a got tested. We wont know for sure until a conclusive study is conducted - say a dozen villages from each region get tested.

Too bad there's no comprehensive study as far as I know. The Ftdna project for example is a shitpile. Over half of the members are American Jews . It seems like there's a lack of interest among Romanians.

https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/romania/surnames

[Ayetooey]

There's 7 Goldbergs and 10 Goldsteins alone in the list, lol. Dunno how the admins thought having so many ethnic Jewish members would bring a fair representation for ethnic Romanians.

[Jana]

Well, some of them are probably Jewish R1a.

[Artek]

His type of R1a has nothing to do with Germanic people though, but has subclade common for eastern europe. It could be local.
From what I remember he cluster with Serbs like typical Translvanian Romanian

R1a type that is not Germanic doesn't mean it was not carried by German settlers.

[Jana]

R1a type that is not Germanic doesn't mean it was not carried by German settlers.

He is CTS3402, not really typical for Germany and most common Z280 in Romania, just saying...
By the way, Transylvanian Saxons originate from southwest Germany which is very poor in R1a of any type.

[Nurzat]

here's 33 Romanians' Y hg on GedMATCH (only Romanian last names, no specific region) - it's all very fragmented, what do you think?

also, some hg may be the same as there's both notations used, old and new (if you notice please help merge those):

4x I2a2

3x E-M5021
3x I1
3x R1a1a

2x I-P109
2x I-M253
2x J2
2x R-M417
2x R-M405

1x C2
1x E1b1b1a
1x E1b1b1a2*
1x I-Z58
1x I-S17250
1x I2b2
1x J-M241
1x R1a-L260>YP610+
1x R1b1b2a1a1
1x R-P297


any thoughts?

PS. we could add to these the hg of the Romanian members on here - please share. I didn't add mine since my paternal side isn't ethnic Romanian. if we get this list to 100 it'd be relevant enough, I think.