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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    I'm sure you'll want a break but what group are you planning on doing next?
    I had started working on Italians before posting this one actually.
    I already have my results based on 479 males and am collecting data about females.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Blade View Post
    I had started working on Italians before posting this one actually.
    I already have my results based on 479 males and am collecting data about females.
    Looking forward to it. I'm finding the differences in populations very interesting. You not only do hair and eye colour but also the overall physical look. Very comprehensive really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    Looking forward to it. I'm finding the differences in populations very interesting. You not only do hair and eye colour but also the overall physical look. Very comprehensive really.
    I hope to finish it by the end of this week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Blade View Post
    Man, get real. There is no country in Europe where pure brown eyes make just 0,5% of the population. Not even Sweden or Finland.
    ''Pure brown'' in this study you quote probably reflects just the darkest brown nuances. Overall difference in eye colour between English and Irish in my studies is just 2,1% - far from being a great one. The Irish are predominantly light-eyed, as my results show, but nowhere near 0,5% brown-eyed.
    Statistics you guys post are often by different authors with very variable criteria depending on the individual - you can't expect them to be unified.
    I, on the other hand, use the same criterion every single time.

    Love this!

    Maybe these ''real blue'' eyes, ''pure blue'' eyes, ''original blue'' eyes, ''bluest blue'' eyes etc. ... are't that special after all ... all just empty talks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Love this!

    Maybe these ''real blue'' eyes, ''pure blue'' eyes, ''original blue'' eyes, ''bluest blue'' eyes etc. ... are't that special after all ... all just empty talks.
    Lots of grey eyes in Ireland apparently. Anyway I'm sure The Blade will get around to doing Finland & Sweden one of these days.

    I think The Blade makes a valid point and I agree in that things like colour can be quite subjective and depends on the study. None of us here are scientists or working to a strict criteria as far as what colour is. At least with The Blade he should be using the same criteria for all the populations he's looking at.

    From my own experience I think mixed eyes are quite common in Ireland and I've said that before. Someone would have seemingly blue eyes but have a darker ring around the pupil. It's called central heterochromia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Blade View Post
    I had started working on Italians before posting this one actually.
    I already have my results based on 479 males and am collecting data about females.
    Great work

    It would be interesting to see a chart with your comparison betweeen analized countries

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Blade View Post
    Man, get real. There is no country in Europe where pure brown eyes make just 0,5% of the population. Not even Sweden or Finland.
    ''Pure brown'' in this study you quote probably reflects just the darkest brown nuances. Overall difference in eye colour between English and Irish in my studies is just 2,1% - far from being a great one. The Irish are predominantly light-eyed, as my results show, but nowhere near 0,5% brown-eyed.
    Statistics you guys post are often by different authors with very variable criteria depending on the individual - you can't expect them to be unified.
    I, on the other hand, use the same criterion every single time.
    It actually includes light brown. I think the trick is in the category excludes any light parts even at very close observation; most brown eyes have dark green edges if you observe them closely. This study observed eyes in greater detail than most studies.

    Anyway looking forward to your numbers on Italy. Also an idea; you should put a link of your other countries you've already done in any new post so that it's easier to compare. You found The Dutch to be lighter eyed than the Irish, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supercomputer View Post
    It actually includes light brown. I think the trick is in the category excludes any light parts even at very close observation; most brown eyes have dark green edges if you observe them closely. This study observed eyes in greater detail than most studies.

    Anyway looking forward to your numbers on Italy. Also an idea; you should put a link of your other countries you've already done in any new post so that it's easier to compare. You found The Dutch to be lighter eyed than the Irish, right?
    Keep in mind I only studied Dutch males. I should do females, too, before speaking precisely comparing Irish and Dutch people.
    But Dutch men did score as lighter-eyed than Irish ones in my surveys (84,75% vs. 74,6%).
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    Adding this here from the All Hurling final and video is only 2.45 mins. Just so people can get a good unbiased representation of Irish colouring. These of course as mostly males.



    All Ireland Football final 2.46 mins.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Blade View Post
    Man, get real. There is no country in Europe where pure brown eyes make just 0,5% of the population. Not even Sweden or Finland.
    ''Pure brown'' in this study you quote probably reflects just the darkest brown nuances. Overall difference in eye colour between English and Irish in my studies is just 2,1% - far from being a great one. The Irish are predominantly light-eyed, as my results show, but nowhere near 0,5% brown-eyed.
    Statistics you guys post are often by different authors with very variable criteria depending on the individual - you can't expect them to be unified.
    I, on the other hand, use the same criterion every single time.
    You need to get real!!! A study done by professionals from the Department of Anthropology of Harvard University, these were physical anthropologists not some amateur. What scale are you using? The study nearly 10,000 men from all over Ireland, going county by county. You would never reach that precision by yourself, these were helped by the Irish government at the time.
    This statement is made by anthropologists, I quote:
    " The distribution of eye color in Ireland is the most remarkable anthropological that island presents."
    "Only 41 out of 8909 in the county series have pure dark eyes (0.5%)."
    "Only four county groups - Sligo-Leitrim S. Fermanagh W. Cavan, Longford-Westmeath, Offaly-Leith-Kildare, and Meath-Louth-Dublin have as much as 1%."
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