The Reason Ottoman Sultans Weren't Very Turkish

[Deniz]

How Süleyman I can be Greek?Do you know his mothers roots from Crimea?

[Adamm]

It might be the case for the Moroccan women but there are genuinely attractive women exist in Middle Eastern countries such as Iran, Lebanon...

Sure, but nothing beats a white women in beauty.

[Tigranes]

How Süleyman I can be Greek?Do you know his mothers roots from Crimea?

Historians suggest that inhabitants of the mountainous parts of Crimea lying to the central and southern parts (the Tats), and those of the Southern coast of Crimea (the Yalıboyu) were the direct descendants of the Pontic Greeks, Armenians, Scythians, Ostrogoths (Crimean Goths) and Kipchaks along with the Cumans while the latest inhabitants of the northern steppe represent the descendants of the Nogai Horde of the Black Sea nominally subjects of the Crimean Khan.[20][21] It is largely assumed that the Tatarization process that mostly took place in the 16th century brought a sense of cultural unity through the blending of the Greeks, Armenians, Italians and Ottoman Turks of the southern coast, Goths of the central mountains, and Turkic-speaking Kipchaks and Cumans of the steppe and forming of the Crimean Tatar ethnic group.[22] However, the Cuman language is considered the direct ancestor of the current language of the Crimean Tatars with possible incorporations of the other languages like Crimean Gothic.[23][24][25][26]

Another theory suggests Crimean Tatars trace their origins to the waves of ancient people, Scythians, Greeks, Goths, Italians and Armenians.[27] When the Golden Horde invaded Crimea in the 1230s, they then mixed with populations which had settled in Eastern Europe, including Crimea since the seventh century: Tatars, but also Mongols and other Turkic groups (Khazars, Pechenegs, Cumans, and Kipchaks), as well as the ancient.[28]

The Mongol conquest of the Kipchaks led to a merged society with the Mongol ruling class over a Kipchak speaking population which came to be known as Tatar and which eventually absorbed other ethnicities on the Crimean peninsula like Armenians, Italians, Greeks, and Goths to form the modern day Crimean Tatar people- up to the Soviet deportation, the Crimean Tatars could still differentiate among themselves between Tatar Kipchak Nogays and the "Tat" descendants of Tatarized Goths and other Turkified peoples.[29]

Goths, Gypsies, and Greeks were assumed to be some of the ancestors of the Tatars on the coast of Crimea, while there were "mixed hill Tatars" and finally "Asiatic" steppe Tatars.[30] Italians and Greeks mixed with the coastal Crimean Tatars.[31]

Today, Crimean Tatars are often considered as the indigenous peoples of the Crimean peninsula.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_Tatars

[Tigranes]

Sure, but nothing beats a white women in beauty.

There are significant amount of white skinned people in those countries also. With that being said I agree on your comment.

[Deniz]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_Tatars

So?

[1]Bunlardan birincisine göre Ayşe Hafsa Sultan, "Abd'ûl-Muin" adında birinin kızıdır.[2] Diğer bir görüşe göre ise, Ayşe Hafsa Sultan Kırım hanı Mengli Giray'ın kızıdır.[5]
Gerçekten de Yavuz Sultan Selim'in eşlerinden birisinin Mengli Giray'ın kızı, Beyhan Sultan, Hâfize Sultan ile Devlet-Şah (Yenişah) Sultan’ın annesi olan Âişe Hâtûn[2][6] olduğu kesin olarak bilinmektedir. Ancak kesin olmayan diğer bir görüşe göre ise Kanuni Sultan Süleyman'ın öz annesi olan Ayşe Hafsa Sultan, Yavuz Sultan Selim'in Avrupa kökenli ikinci eşidir [7].

[Deniz]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_Tatars

So?

[1]Bunlardan birincisine göre Ayşe Hafsa Sultan, "Abd'ûl-Muin" adında birinin kızıdır.[2] Diğer bir görüşe göre ise, Ayşe Hafsa Sultan Kırım hanı Mengli Giray'ın kızıdır.[5]
Gerçekten de Yavuz Sultan Selim'in eşlerinden birisinin Mengli Giray'ın kızı, Beyhan Sultan, Hâfize Sultan ile Devlet-Şah (Yenişah) Sultan’ın annesi olan Âişe Hâtûn[2][6] olduğu kesin olarak bilinmektedir. Ancak kesin olmayan diğer bir görüşe göre ise Kanuni Sultan Süleyman'ın öz annesi olan Ayşe Hafsa Sultan, Yavuz Sultan Selim'in Avrupa kökenli ikinci eşidir [7].

[Thanas Django]

Armenians were noble people, they refused to mix with the low-races, that's how Armenians preserved their genetic continuity for more than 4000 years.

and in order to preserve their noble genetics, they developed the defensive features of the unibrow and hooked nose.

[Tigranes]

and in order to preserve their noble genetics, they developed the defensive features of the unibrow and hooked nose.

It's funny that this statement coming from a Middle Eastern Cypriot






It's normal for peoples of Caucasian race to have dense eye brows and aquiline noses, speaking of noble genetics literally all emperors of the Roman/Byzantine Empires had "hooked" noses, however Cypriots look like other surrounding peoples of that region, there are even ones who look like North Africans, because they're simply mixed people...

[Thanas Django]

It's funny that this statement coming from a Middle Eastern Cypriot






It's normal for peoples of Caucasian race to have dense eye brows and aquiline noses, speaking of noble genetics literally all emperors of the Roman/Byzantine Empires had "hooked" noses, however Cypriots look like other surrounding peoples of that region, there are even ones who look like North Africans, because they're simply mixed people...

The ugly ones are Armenian Cypriots

[Nassbean]

It might be the case for the Moroccan women but there are genuinely attractive women exist in Middle Eastern countries such as Iran, Lebanon...

Don't start to be disrespectful like that pls.