The Reason Ottoman Sultans Weren't Very Turkish

[Tigranes]

double post

[Nassbean]

Oh, sorry confusion, that statements were directed to him, don't take it personally. What do you mean by being disrespectful? He(adamm) claimed women from Europe are more attractive than women from the middle east, I said that it might be the case for Morrocan women, since he's Morrocan he must know his people better than others, but it would be unfair to make statements for other peoples of Middle East or North Africa.

Then it's ok I agree with your point of view and I disagree with him about white women being prettier.

[Tigranes]

White =/= white skin. White = European.

Oh you are right, look how "White" they look:

Non-Caucasian peoples of the Northern Europe aKa Albino Turkics/Mongoloids:

I'm genuinely asking this question, what makes the people in the Group 1 more "White" than Group 2?
P.S. : I've already voted for Russians, Finns...

Group 1







Group 2

Spoiler!

I don't know about you guys, but in my very opinion the person has to be fully Caucasian(Caucasoid), at least in appearance, to be classified as "White"...

[Adamastor]

Oh you are right, look how "White" they look:

Non-Caucasian peoples of the Northern Europe aKa Albino Turkics/Mongoloids:

''Caucasian'' is an outdated term anyway. HGs and farmers, for example, had 30k years of distance between them, calling both ''Caucasian'' is a stretch.

A ''non-Caucasian'' looking Northern European is still closer to other ''Caucasian'' looking Northern Europeans than to Turkics or Mongols.

White is just a term for Europeans, I don't care about ''Caucasoids''.

[Incal]

So, to make it short:

[Karaton]

It would be naive to think that nomadic Central Asian tribesmen were able to administer such great empires like Ottoman Empire, nomads were only good at pillaging and destroying cities, they literally didn't contribute anything to the mankind.

Do you even know how many Turkic Khanates and Khaganates and Sultanetes exists? You retarded cannon fodders can't even keep a kingdom in your hand and bragging with "governing"

[Tigranes]

Do you even know how many Turkic Khanates and Khaganates and Sultanetes exists?

Yes, you should be grateful that Persians civilized those nomadic Turkic tribes, they would have been living in tents if they had not migrated to these fertile lands.

[Chelubey]

[rajputprincess]

That's bollocks...

It's not about refusing to mix or not because all those slave mothers of the Sultans didn't want to be slaves in the first place but ended up being and I doubt that the Turks cared much about the Armenians willing to mix or not but I am sure a great number of Armenians ended up as slaves, particularly in the Sultan's harem.

Now why there is no Armenian mother of a Sultan?
Probably they weren't that attractive to Turks as the European girls were, not much changed since then I would say!

There are already many Georgian and Caucasus girls Armenian are Caucasian many pass in Georgia and other Caucasian countries.

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[Chelubey]

It would be naive to think that nomadic Central Asian tribesmen were able to administer such great empires like Ottoman Empire, nomads were only good at pillaging and destroying cities, they literally didn't contribute anything to the mankind.

In the Armenian language there is an ancient Turkic substrate.
Turkic "eshek", chuvash "elyk", proto-turkic *elk - "door", armenian "elk "- exit.
Turkic "andyz", chuvash "antyr", proto-turkic *antar - "boscage", armenian "antar"- wood.
Perhaps Armenians spoke Türkic language until they switched to Armenian language.
Armenians are our Turkic brothers. Parhaps that ancient proto-turkic tribes created armenian state.