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    Default Piracy of otherwise unavailable content should be legalized

    So, the market online streaming services. Soon, every filmmaker will have its own streaming platform. I don't mind, I can maintain 10 subscriptions at the same time. The problem is, that
    This service is not available in your country
    And, if you use VPN, you will still be watching content that's not licensed in your country, so it's as lawful as torrenting it.So, why not torrent?

    Well, the main reasons are:
    1. Torrents aren't as comfortable as disney+
    2. There is always some risk when torrenting. Viruses, phishing, bitcoin miners, etc.

    So, in my opinion, there should be some law that invalidates copyright laws for markets where the content isn't being offered otherwise. That would mean that Netflix could pick up Disney movies, and stream them to countries where Disney+ is not available - with or without Disney's permission. Also, that would help with the cases, where an online game developer closes the servers, but still keeps C&D'ing the unofficial ones.

    With the law change, any C&D or other forms of copyright takedown, would be invalid without the proof that the content is offered in an official way. And, it would only apply to consumer-oriented digital material - such as TV series and video games, but not stock photos or professional graphics tutorials.

    What would you think about such concept?

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    I think that there is, often, a different reason: a political one. In a lot of cases, there could be content which could have political consequences if it were to go a viral in a particular region and sabotage the group Youtube/Google favours. So they ban it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    I think that there is, often, a different reason: a political one. In a lot of cases, there could be content which could have political consequences if it were to go a viral in a particular region and sabotage the group Youtube/Google favours. So they ban it.
    Well, I guess this only applies to erotic content and/or high-censorship countries. Plus, with or without copyright law, your point would still be in effect.

    In most cases, the "political reasons" is about taxation laws and consumer right laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    I think that there is, often, a different reason: a political one. In a lot of cases, there could be content which could have political consequences if it were to go a viral in a particular region and sabotage the group Youtube/Google favours. So they ban it.
    Well, I guess this only applies to erotic content and/or high-censorship countries. Plus, with or without copyright law, your point would still be in effect.

    In most cases, the "political reasons" is about taxation laws and consumer right laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pablo-ali View Post
    Well, I guess this only applies to erotic content and/or high-censorship countries. Plus, with or without copyright law, your point would still be in effect.

    In most cases, the "political reasons" is about taxation laws and consumer right laws.
    You're quite naive when you believe that there is no political motivation. For what I can see on Youtube - in most cases, it's purely political content. Erotic or pornographic content can be found all over the net. It's just that the "it's not available in your region" thing most often tend to appear when the video is politically charged. And this is particularly common during election cycles. Music too is often banned but can be found elsewhere.



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    You're quite naive when you believe that there is no political motivation. For what I can see on Youtube - in most cases, it's purely political content. Erotic or pornographic content can be found all over the net. It's just that the "it's not available in your region" thing most often tend to appear when the video is politically charged. And this is particularly common during election cycles. Music too is often banned but can be found elsewhere.
    Ah well, I'm not talking about youtube, but more about the movies you have to pay for.

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    Are you interested to provide the streaming services or just to watch the content?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pablo-ali View Post
    Ah well, I'm not talking about youtube, but more about the movies you have to pay for.
    I agree when it comes to movies that are over 5 years old. They have made enough profits and what really annoys me are companies that claim centuries old works of historical and cultural significance.



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    Quote Originally Posted by pulstar View Post
    Are you interested to provide the streaming services or just to watch the content?
    I am interested in watching the movies like a civilised person, without having to do some shadowy things. But the owner has cut off my country from all official sources.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    I agree when it comes to movies that are over 5 years old. They have made enough profits and what really annoys me are companies that claim centuries old works of historical and cultural significance.
    Well, I don't mind about old movies, but what annoys me, is that companies claim their ownership of history. For instance, the entire LOTR universe is owned by some company that has nothing to do with the author. The Witcher universe, despite of originally being books, is now owned by CD Projekt, and the original author of the books needs license from CD Projekt to make a new book. Even Marvel claimed the Norse mythology to such point, that, when you google some Gods, the first results will be marvel comics wiki.

    I am totally against such rights. If I made a new movie or videogame in the Tolkien universe, it should be considered a part of the fair use. I'm not using any assets from the movies or illustrations from the books, I am just making an unofficial alternative version of some story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pablo-ali View Post
    I am interested in watching the movies like a civilised person, without having to do some shadowy things. But the owner has cut off my country from all official sources.



    Well, I don't mind about old movies, but what annoys me, is that companies claim their ownership of history. For instance, the entire LOTR universe is owned by some company that has nothing to do with the author. The Witcher universe, despite of originally being books, is now owned by CD Projekt, and the original author of the books needs license from CD Projekt to make a new book. Even Marvel claimed the Norse mythology to such point, that, when you google some Gods, the first results will be marvel comics wiki.

    I am totally against such rights. If I made a new movie or videogame in the Tolkien universe, it should be considered a part of the fair use. I'm not using any assets from the movies or illustrations from the books, I am just making an unofficial alternative version of some story.
    You're correct. I think that copyrights should only be owned for 5 years and that no company should be allowed to buy or sell a copyright. This in order to create a more open market because this kills creativity and thus closes a market by protecting a couple of companies that had nothing to do with the creation of a set work.
    Last edited by The Lawspeaker; 07-09-2019 at 01:38 PM.



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