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    In every country in which you have public schools (that have enough money to put money in social science that are influenced by cultural marxism) you will have feminism. That obvious:
    http://www.m-x.com.mx/2018-08-08/gru...gentina-fotos/

    Even in andean countries in which population are less western influenced is the rule as @Lazio shows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kratz View Post
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    However, they also have a strong catholic institutions who want to stop it.
    I come from a Roman Catholic upbring, obviously, and I can tell you for sure that Catholicism is also subverted by alien ideas and it's not (the majority) what it says it's stands for, specially outside Italy. Since we're talking about Latin America, take note that Marxism in the church goes way back, lets take a look in "Liberation theology":
    History
    A major player in the formation of liberation theology was the Latin American Episcopal Conference (CELAM). Created in 1955 in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, CELAM pushed the Second Vatican Council (1962–1965) toward a more socially oriented stance. However, CELAM never supported liberation theology as such [...] More or less at the same time as the initial publications of Latin American liberation theology are also found voices of Black liberation theology and feminist liberation theology.[...] Despite the orthodox bishops' predominance in CELAM, a more radical form of liberation theology remained much supported in South America. Thus, the 1979 Puebla Conference was an opportunity for orthodox bishops to reassert control of the radical elements, but they failed. At the Puebla Conference, the orthodox reorientation was met by strong opposition from the liberal part of the clergy, which supported the concept of a "preferential option for the poor".

    Pope John Paul II gave the opening speech at the Puebla Conference[...] He criticized radical liberation theology, saying, "this idea of Christ as a political figure, a revolutionary, as the subversive of Nazareth, does not tally with the Church's catechesis" [...]
    Liberation theology proposes to fight poverty by addressing its alleged source, sin. In so doing, it explores the relationship between Christian theology (especially Roman Catholic) and political activism, especially in relation to economic justice, poverty, and human rights.


    In March 1983, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger (later Pope Benedict XVI), head of the Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF), made ten observations of Gustavo Gutiérrez's theology, accusing Gutiérrez of politically interpreting the Bible in supporting temporal messianism [...] Ratzinger objected that the spiritual concept of the Church as "People of God" is transformed into a "Marxist myth". In liberation theology he declared, the "'people' is the antithesis of the hierarchy, the antithesis of all institutions, which are seen as oppressive powers. Ultimately anyone who participates in the class struggle is a member of the 'people'; the 'Church of the people' becomes the antagonist of the hierarchical Church."


    According to Roberto Bosca, a historian at Austral University in Buenos Aires, Jorge Bergoglio (later Pope Francis) had "a reputation as an opponent of liberation theology during the 1970s" but he "accepted the premise of liberation theology, especially the option for the poor, but in a 'nonideological' fashion." Bosca said Bergoglio was not opposed to liberation theology itself but to "giving a Catholic blessing to armed insurgency"

    Before becoming Pope, Bergoglio (Pope Francis) said, "The option for the poor comes from the first centuries of Christianity. It's the Gospel itself. If you were to read one of the sermons of the first fathers of the Church, from the second or third centuries, about how you should treat the poor, you’d say it was Maoist or Trotskyist.
    [...]
    Miguel d'Escoto, a Maryknoll priest from Nicaragua, had been sanctioned with an a divinis suspension from his public functions in 1984 by Pope John Paul II, for political activity in the leftist Sandinista government in Nicaragua. Pope Francis lifted the suspension in August 2014
    Outside church opnions:
    US political reactions
    In 1983 US vice president George H. W. Bush said he could not comprehend how Catholic theologians could harmonize Catholicism and Marxism and support revolutionaries in Central America. "I'm puzzled. I just don't understand it."

    Accusations
    Communist era general of Romania's secret police, Ion Mihai Pacepa, claims that the KGB created liberation theology. Commentators, notably John L. Allen of Crux on the left and Damian Thompson of The Spectator on the right, have suspected these claims are exaggerated.
    Pope Francis reciving a communist crucifix from Evo Morales, later pope said he was NOT offended by that:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...x-gift-bolivia


    About Bolsonaro,

    Quote Originally Posted by kratz View Post
    A lot of America leftists truly hate him and think he is a fascist.
    That happens a lot in Brazil as well.


    Quote Originally Posted by kratz View Post
    It goes to show that the Brazilian people because of their catholic legacy have some resistance at least in the eyes of Americans hard lefties
    Honestly, Bolsonaro is just a showman, he said things from the top of his head all the time since he started as a politician years ago (many times pure rude/stupid things), in the past years he became famous because he didn't care about saying rude things towards leftists, and many Brazilians loved that as a TV show ("look dude, watch what he'll say now... WOW, he is soo crazy, lol I don't believe he said that to the guy lolz he is awesome"), so, Bolsonaro is a suicidal figure to all conservative stances (because he gives reason to leftists to continue their public shaming on society)... but again, Brazilians are planets away from being conservatives - but what happens here is simple: most Brazilians didn't want to have a traditional, hard-working and austere way of life, following an organized mindset... so why anyone think that Brazilians would accept speech rules about PC/marxist movement and so on? (most) Brazilians just want to be left alone doing the dirty things they enjoy, without rules of any kind (either emperialist/fascist/monarchist mindset, or marxist/political-correctness stance).
    But the worst of all, about Bolsonaro, is that he really is the spirit of your average Brazilian guy from his generation, so he says/said those anti-pc things because he also says/said anti-austere things - the point is, he isn't a scholar of any kind, he didn't have a strong/clear ideology... so from the past years he was filling his ideology void with a brazilian neo-con (Olavo de Carvalho) and because of that, Bolsonaro begun his good feelings towards Israel and the jews (that Carvalho neocon stressed many times that jews are smart/hard-working, that Brazilians are dumb and alienated)... later on Bolsonaro's wife influenced him to convert to a Brazilian protestant church (Pentecostalism branch), and that, specially in Brazil, means: Israel/Jewish worship non-stop (because they consider themselves also a "chosen people that will be save by the god of Israelis", yes they say that all the time). After Bolsonaro won the elections the first foreigner leader to come to Brazil for his speech was Netanyahu



    So what Bolsonaro and that neocon thinker did was to influence a new imbecile generation of Brazilians that are shifted to a mindset that simply doesn't fit this country in any sense.


    Take note: Islam is NOTHING in Brazil


    Catholic, Protestant, Spiritism, African-oriented religions... Islam doesn't even appear in the census because the numbers are too low. YET, dumb neocon Brazilians feel they are close to Israel (because they think Israel is a symbol of neo con values (capitalism, "democracy" and some support because they think Israel is conservative) and, of course, they are muh CHOSEN PEOPLE) and they go so far to make statements against Islam in protests and internet... do you know how autistic that is for Brazilian reality?!

    Quote Originally Posted by kratz View Post
    I'm happy that Bolsonaro is president of Brazil.
    So, to sum up: nothing to be happy about Bolsonaro. He is actually just finding another way to screw Latin America (and, at least for the South, not so sure about Central, but America is becoming less and less "Latin" with time).
    "Moderation in all things healthful; total abstinence from all things harmful."

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    @Lazio
    Thanks for sharing. What do you mean by less Latin? Losing the Catholic religion in favor of Marxism? From what I'm getting Bolsanoro is a punching bags for the world liberal elites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kratz View Post
    Hey guys,

    I have friends in Peru and I noticed that lately, they are just being hit everywhere with feminism. There is not a single day where there isn't a new ad about violence against women, about men being violent about femicides about gender ideology in schools.

    It seems that while the USA, Western Europe and European inspired countries like Argentina bend over backwards for the 'newest trendy idelogy'. At least Andean countries are putting out a fight and not giving up their values. I don't know about Mexico from what I heard the USA has a strong hold on them. However, even then the US elites are not able to make Mexicans accept all the LGBT stuff. There was this American journalist angry at Mexican fans since they wouldn't stop saying the "Puto" on the stadiums.

    Whatever your political stance you must concede that feminist or feminist-inspired ideologies have had a largerly a negative impact on the countries they've been applied to: higher divorce rates, low marriage rates, mass abortions, the creation of single family households, promiscuity from both sexes, the rise of alternative lifestyles(Redpill, MGTOW, career women...etc).My own hypothesis of the end goal for this ideology is the decrease the worldwide population.
    It is better to be a divorcée than to be repeatedly abused and beaten by your husband by staying in a toxic relationship. Latin American countries have some of the highest rates of domestic violence against Women (I mean country like Bolivia in particular). Women also have a low social standing, and are discriminated not much less than in certain Muslim countries.

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    For better or for worse, the supposed traditionalism of South American countries is highly exaggerated. Divorce is rapidly approaching the levels of Western nations, and out-of-wedlock births are higher than in the West if anything. Even LGBT issues are making inroads.

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    Morales "claimed that the presence of homosexual men around the world is a consequence of inadequate nutrition. According to Morales, this is due to eating chicken saturated with feminizing hormones 'The chicken that we eat is chock-full of feminine hormones. So, when men eat these chickens, they deviate from themselves as men.'"

    Morales also blamed European baldness on genetically modified foods.


    Agence France Presse reports: "Spain's National Federation of Lesbians, Gays, Transsexuals and Bisexuals sent a protest letter to the Bolivian embassy of Madrid, calling Morales remarks 'homophobic.' The president of Argentina's homosexual community, Cesar Cigliutti, said: 'It's an absurdity to think that eating hormone-containing chicken can change the sexual orientation of a person.' ... 'By following that reasoning, if we put male hormones in a chicken and we make a homosexual eat it, he will transform into a heterosexual,' he added, in online comments."

    According to Spero, "The conference was billed as the First Worldwide Peoples’ Conference on Climate Change and Mother Earth and organized by the South American nation’s government as defense of environmentalism. The conference assailed capitalism as an assault on Mother Earth, which many Andean peoples refer to as 'Pacha Mama.' According to Morales, genetically altered foods and Coca-Cola are 'symbols of capitalism.'"

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    Many of Evo Morales' reforms regarding healthcare, education, land tenure and natural resources have been good, but this just sounds insane.

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    He may have a point. When I buy meat at the local store, it tastes good but that's it. when I buy halal meat, It gives me hours of erection.it could be related to spices (turkish butchers use a lot of pepper), but perhaps it is the meat. although it is possible that they both buy the meat at the same slaughterhouse but slaughter in a different way.

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    To me is not that Andean countries are more resistant to feminist. Rather, northern European countries and America have almost no resistant. It seems people in those countries just roll over and accept anything as long as a lot of people believe in it.

    I've been studying America at least and you'll see that the first target of the elites is always the black minority. First they'll try something with blacks(Jazz) and then once its popular they'll put it on the white population. This has been going on since the early 1910's in America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazio View Post
    Oh did you edit the post sweetheart?! You noticed how retarded that phrase of yours sounded right?!
    Anyhow, you're bringing "arab/muslim" out of nowhere... but since you wanna talk about it, here is the list of the 10 most dangerous countries to be woman:


    Funny how you try to bring everyone (non-Northerners) down but you're a handicapped in every way possible.
    United States #10.... Bull fucking shit

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