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    Quote Originally Posted by Richmondbread View Post
    It makes more sense that their experiences would be different. That is also why the Gospel accounts are different too. It is actually more legitimate .
    No, it's a contradiction. Instead of explaining the contradiction you're telling me 2 + 2 = 5 is legitimate. One is being told (by a voice in her head) that suicide will lead to losing touch with God (most likely meaning she's going to hell) and the other isn't rejected by God. Both are committing the same sin. Both are receiving different answers (of course it's all in their heads).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    No, it's a contradiction. Instead of explaining the contradiction you're telling me 2 + 2 = 5 is legitimate. One is being told (by a voice in her head) that suicide will lead to losing touch with God (most likely meaning she's going to hell) and the other isn't rejected by God. Both are committing the same sin. Both are receiving different answers (of course it's all in their heads).
    It really isn't. Think about it:God created us as individuals, and each person has a different relationship with Him. That is, if they choose to have one. Hell has many different elements. I don't believe all hell testimonies, though. I check to see if they agree with the Bible. Some people are just out to make money.

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    Colonel Grimes you are overly skeptical, to your own detriment. You are fooling and misleading no-one but yourself. If I were you I would think hard and serious about these matters...they have eternal implications.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Yes it's absolutely real, 100%. Make sure you never end up there. The good news is that you CAN prevent going there, by accepting Jesus into your life. That is the only way to escape eternal torment in hellfire.
    Threatening people with "eternal torment" is not a great way to convince them to sincerely believe in your God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    Threatening people with "eternal torment" is not a great way to convince them to sincerely believe in your God.
    How so? People choose to be with God or be against Him. He doesn't force any relationship with us if we aren't willing participants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richmondbread View Post
    Bigfoot is a hoax. Jesus talked about hell more than any other subject in the Bible. It is a real place, and you don't want to go there...

    People have been deluded by hoaxes for thousands of years. The teachings attributed to Jesus does contain some excellent morality and wisdom. I wish those who believe in his Divinity followed those teachings more closely. That said, I don't believe in his Divinity nor that the Bible is a 100% factual retelling of History.

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    The contradictions suggest that many of these near death experiences are counterfeit. Remember that Gods Word is to be the final authority and that we should not believe all spirits because there are lying spirits.

    1 Kings 22:21-23:

    21 And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will persuade him.

    22 And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so.

    23 Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee.


    1 John 4:1:

    Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

    2 Corinthians 11:13-14:

    13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

    14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.


    Galatians 1:8-9:

    8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

    9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanderer View Post
    The contradictions suggest that many of these near death experiences are counterfeit. Remember that God’s Word is to be the final authority and that we should not believe all spirits because there are lying spirits.

    1 Kings 22:21-23:

    21 And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will persuade him.

    22 And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so.

    23 Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee.




    1 John 4:1:

    Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

    2 Corinthians 11:13-14:

    13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

    14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.


    Galatians 1:8-9:

    8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

    9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

    Some are I believe. But the original video I posted is definitely genuine , I believe. We look at them to see how they measure up to the Bible. One thing that is a red flag for me is if people say "there are Christians in hell". That is a lie from Satan. There is no Christian in hell. If they are there, it is because they were never really saved in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richmondbread View Post
    Some are I believe. But the original video I posted is definitely genuine , I believe. We look at them to see how they measure up to the Bible. One thing that is a red flag for me is if people say "there are Christians in hell". That is a lie from Satan. There is no Christian in hell. If they are there, it is because they were never really saved in the first place.
    That's spot on, brother!

    John 10:27-30:

    27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

    28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

    29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

    30 I and my Father are one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    Threatening people with "eternal torment" is not a great way to convince them to sincerely believe in your God.
    It's not threatening people with eternal torment. Nobody is threatening them. We're just telling them what's going to happen. But what is so good about this, is that God himself came down and became a human, just to save us from this impending disaster-nightmare. He gave his life to save us from hellfire! That's something worth thinking about... God is wonderful. But the decision remains ours, whether we want to be saved or not! It's really such an easy decision... yet so many people are still rejecting it. Very sad.
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