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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    But what is so good about this, is that God himself came down and became a human, just to save us from this impending disaster-nightmare. He gave his life to save us from hellfire! That's something worth thinking about... God is wonderful.
    But when GOD is almighty, why can't he destroy the hellfire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MS85 View Post
    But when GOD is almighty, why can't he destroy the hellfire?
    Why should he? It has a purpose, it has been created for the devil and his angels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Why should he? It has a purpose, it has been created for the devil and his angels.
    Well, maybe because it can harm all God's children? Also, why can GOD destroy the devil for once and for all?

    I asked that question once to somebody else and he told me that GOD is 'testing' people. People with good heart would pass the test, while sinners wil go to the hellfire. But according to the Catholic church and some other churches, sinners can be forgiven when they acknowledge and regret their sins. But if all people are his children, why GOD doesn't defeat the devil and save all his children from hellfire? Why would he 'test' his own creation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MS85 View Post
    Well, maybe because it can harm all God's children? Also, why can GOD destroy the devil for once and for all?

    I asked that question once to somebody else and he told me that GOD is 'testing' people. People with good heart would pass the test, while sinners wil go to the hellfire. But according to the Catholic church and some other churches, sinners can be forgiven when they acknowledge and regret their sins. But if all people are his children, why GOD doesn't defeat the devil and save all his children from hellfire? Why would he 'test' his own creation?
    All people are not God's children. Many people are children of the devil. Yes of course, sinners can be forgiven if they repent. And yes, Jesus HAS defeated the power of the devil on the cross, he died FOR US so that we can be saved. But we have to accept it!! It is a free gift, but we have to take it and make him Lord of our lives! The devil's destiny is already mapped out -- he will be thrown in the lake of fire, and so will everyone who rejected God on this earth. It really is as simple as that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MS85 View Post
    Well, maybe because it can harm all God's children? Also, why can GOD destroy the devil for once and for all?

    I asked that question once to somebody else and he told me that GOD is 'testing' people. People with good heart would pass the test, while sinners wil go to the hellfire. But according to the Catholic church and some other churches, sinners can be forgiven when they acknowledge and regret their sins. But if all people are his children, why GOD doesn't defeat the devil and save all his children from hellfire? Why would he 'test' his own creation?
    Your reasoning is based on the false premise that all people are children of God. This is not true. It is only through Jesus that we are children of God (John 1:12).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    All people are not God's children.
    How? God created life and is therefore responsible for the creation and death of all humans

    and so will everyone who rejected God on this earth. It really is as simple as that.
    Are you sure? What about Buddhists who don't believe in GOD and still spiritually are very 'clean' people and who didn't harm others?


    Btw, I do truly believe that the path to Jesus can be a path to save the 'white' race. Because not many Muslims or Buddhist are open for the teachings of Jesus. The only problem are Black people of African ancestry. But I'm sure there is a solution to this puzzle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanderer View Post
    Your reasoning is based on the false premise that all people are children of God. This is not true. It is only through Jesus that we are children of God (John 1:12).
    God created mankind in his own image.

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    It's fashionable in some evangelical circles to tell people indiscriminately that God loves them. This isn't biblical (see Psalm 5:5, 11:5). But the child of God is free from the condemnation of sin; all their sin was imputed upon Jesus on the cross and He paid the full price for His sheep (John 19:30). This includes all sin: past, present, and future. Thus, legally, though the child of God does sin, such sin is not ultimately held against him. God loves His children that much to pay such an enormous price for us!

    Quote Originally Posted by MS85 View Post
    How? God created life and is therefore responsible for the creation of all humans
    Most people are "vessels of wrath fitted to destruction" (Romans 9:22, see also Matthew 7:13-14).

    Are you sure? What about Buddhists who don't believe in GOD and still spiritually are very 'clean' people and who didn't harm others?
    Jesus had some rather strong words for practitioners of self-righteous religion: "vipers" (Matthew 12:34) and "Ye are of your father the devil" (John 8:44).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MS85 View Post
    How? God created life and is therefore responsible for the creation and death of all humans

    Are you sure? What about Buddhists who don't believe in GOD and still spiritually are very 'clean' people and who didn't harm others?


    Btw, I do truly believe that the path to Jesus can be a path to save the 'white' race. Because not many Muslims or Buddhist are open for the teachings of Jesus. The only problem are Black people of African ancestry. But I'm sure there is a solution to this puzzle.
    You will find answers to all these questions of yours in the Bible. I think your main problem is that you don't realise God is real, and/or that Jesus is the only way to get to know God.
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    There is no heaven or hell. No "judgement" by some God.
    These concepts were just invented in a time when people needed some justification for a painful life.
    The only heaven & hell are in our own minds.
    "It is better to live one day as a lion than 100 years as a sheep" - Il Duce
    "Tolerance is a proof of distrust in one's own ideals." - Friedrich Nietzsche.
    "Every man is the artisan of his own fortune" - Roman proverb

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