Question to straight men: do you find watching women masturbating erotic?

[Longbowman]

A thumb down for such out-of-character homophobia.

If that was homophobic you're a dyed-in-the-wool anti-Semite.

Allow me to turn it around on you. If I said: 'Gays: do you really enjoy watching men masturbate/masturbate each other? Really? I mean I guess I can understand enjoying looking at a six pack but cocks and balls, EWWWWW' then you could rightly roll your eyes and dismiss my question as at its core, incredibly silly.

[Tooting Carmen]

If that was homophobic you're a dyed-in-the-wool anti-Semite.

If you haven't noticed by now, I am much more friendly and sympathetic towards Jews than at least 75% of other forum members. Having the odd pop at Israel doesn't make me an anti-Semite.

[Longbowman]

If you haven't noticed by now, I am much more friendly and sympathetic towards Jews than at least 75% of other forum members. Having the odd pop at Israel doesn't make me an anti-Semite.

No, but randomly bringing up Israel with me in an accusatory fashion as if I'm both from there and responsible for its actions is at least as anti-Semitic as what I said was homophobic.

Also being in the top quartile of this forum for philosemitism is a low bar but dw I don't think you're an actual Jew hater.

[Tooting Carmen]

No, but randomly bringing up Israel with me in an accusatory fashion as if I'm both from there and responsible for its actions is at least as anti-Semitic as what I said was homophobic.

Also being in the top quartile of this forum for philosemitism is a low bar but dw I don't think you're an actual Jew hater.

OK point taken. Also, contrary to many grumpy feminists, I don't think women are nowadays treated as sex objects any more than men are. What may have been true in 1969 isn't necessarily true now. And your point earlier about six packs is interesting - I would even go so far as to say that men have more body image issues nowadays (at least if they want to be famous) than women do, since at some point they're expected to take their shirts off and promote their Adonis-like physiques.

[Longbowman]

OK point taken. Also, contrary to many grumpy feminists, I don't think women are nowadays treated as sex objects any more than men are. What may have been true in 1969 isn't necessarily true now. And your point earlier about six packs is interesting - I would even go so far as to say that men have more body image issues nowadays (at least if they want to be famous) than women do, since at some point they're expected to take their shirts off and promote their Adonis-like physiques.

Yeah but the male physical ideal is healthy and an excellent goal to strive for, the feminine physical ideal is much more poorly-defined and pluricentric, with many unhealthy iterations.

[Tooting Carmen]

Yeah but the male physical ideal is healthy and an excellent goal to strive for, the feminine physical ideal is much more poorly-defined and pluricentric, with many unhealthy iterations.

Up to a point, but a man can be perfectly healthy without having to have a body like Anthony Joshua (sexy guy though he is). And wouldn't many if not most people's "feminine physical ideal" be something like the dancer in this video?

[Ruggery]

Both women and men of our time are sexualized at least in the West.


The excuse of feminists for their discrimination is that they do so simply because they are women (this could be true only in countries where laws do not protect women and favor men more than they do in countries such as India, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia) but in the West That does not happen in most countries.

[Chryssie Khanate]

no it's boring as hell.

[TheOldNorth]

Both women and men of our time are sexualized at least in the West.


The excuse of feminists for their discrimination is that they do so simply because they are women (this could be true only in countries where laws do not protect women and favor men more than they do in countries such as India, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia) but in the West That does not happen in most countries.

that woman is to muscular, if you're a woman with that much muscle, have a slight amount of fat to cover it as curves at least

[Kamal900]

I do have some sort of fetish towards erotic stuff, so yeah.