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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    If mixing with EEF made Corded Ware lighter, then how come Sardinians are darker than North Euros even though they have much more EEF?

    I think Corded Ware was lighter from the beginning due to its EHG and then got slightly darker after mixing with EEF/GAC.
    People got very light skinned in Europe in the past 6000 years or so. People say that EEF were the lightest group in the world at that point in time. Not sure if they were lighter than EHG though, but definitely lighter than Yamnaya and way lighter than WHG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NPKTO View Post
    People got very light skinned in Europe in the past 6000 years or so. People say that EEF were the lightest group in the world at that point in time. Not sure if they were lighter than EHG though, but definitely lighter than Yamnaya and way lighter than WHG.
    I don't think they would've been lighter than Yamnaya. What makes you so sure they were?

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    EEF existed for a very long time and mixed with various groups, obviously this affected their phenotype and e.g early Balkan farmers cannot be compared with WHG/EHG heavy later farmers from say Poland. Yamnaya wasn't darker than Anatolia_neolithic farmers and definitely not darker than Iberian farmers with their heavy WHG and even Magdalenian ancestry. I bet the steppe-like peoples living north of the Yamnaya horizon and with higher EHG were pretty light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    If mixing with EEF made Corded Ware lighter, then how come Sardinians are darker than North Euros even though they have much more EEF?

    I think Corded Ware was lighter from the beginning due to its EHG and then got slightly darker after mixing with EEF/GAC.
    EEF like Calpeia was not "more" dark, just more brown eyes with brown hair (with some nuance), that's all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dududud View Post
    EEF like Calpeia was not "more" dark, just more brown eyes with brown hair (with some nuance), that's all.
    And by the way I always found Sardinians light in complexion.

    They are an old west med population, they aren't nordid but neither swarthy, simply light euro med people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    I don't think they would've been lighter than Yamnaya. What makes you so sure they were?
    Because farming population had diet that's less reliant on meat (source of Vitamin D) & more reliant on crops and vegetables. But I think only Globular Amphora EEF was lighter than Yamnaya. But I think Yamnaya was also very light skinned, but darker by modern Northern European standards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NPKTO View Post
    Because farming population had diet that's less reliant on meat (source of Vitamin D) & more reliant on crops and vegetables. But I think only Globular Amphora EEF was lighter than Yamnaya. But I think Yamnaya was also very light skinned, but darker by modern Northern European standards.
    Is it actually proven that GAC were lighter than Yamnaya? It sounds like just a weak theory to me.

    I think Yamnaya and CW people would've been lighter due to having more EHG than Globular Amphora.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    Is it actually proven that GAC were lighter than Yamnaya? It sounds like just a weak theory to me.

    I think Yamnaya and CW people would've been lighter due to having more EHG than Globular Amphora.
    Both EHG and EEF (particulary Globular Amphora) were very light skinned because these populations possed light skin genes. I think we're only going to have endless argument with this lol. None of these population were particularly dark skinned. Among farmers, Iran_N was probably the darkest followed by PPNB. I would also say that CHG were also quite light skinned despite being very similar to Iran_N. Probably because they adapted differently than Iran_N farmers.

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