Y dna of Serbs from Bosnia&Herzegovina

[CommonSense]

Interesting. Yea, in the city of Shkoder itself, there are people of mixed origins, or identifying Albanian when their ancestors are Montenegrin/Serbian.

Actually, alot of Enver Hoxhas closest supporters among Albanians during the communist regime were both Albanians of Montenegrin/Serbian minority descent in Shkodra, and Albanians originating from Greek and Bulgarian minorities in the South.

Originally your haplogroup was Celtic though, no? Seems that way from upstream branches.

Yes, likely from some Roman colonist(s) from the Alps considering our branch was found among one Italian from Trentino.

[Cleitus]

Illyrians were probably R1b, so...

Proto Illyrians were R1b and J2b L-283. The main Haplogroups among Illyrians were E-V13 + R1b-L23 + J2b L-283 the holy Albanian Trinity.

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[Rethel]

Proto Illyrians were R1b and J2b L-283. The main Haplogroups among Illyrians were E-V13 + R1b-L23 + J2b L-283 Albanian

And maybe many, many others, but the original one was R1b, maybe with very very tiny R1a minority.
Albanian hgs on the other hand, are a product of some next 3000 years until now, so: irrelevant.

[Cleitus]

And maybe many, many others, but the original one was R1b, maybe with very very tiny R1a minority.
Albanian hgs on the other hand, are a product of some next 3000 years until now, so: irrelevant.

Illyrians were the product of Indo-European invaders mixing with the local population so whats your point? Proto Illyrians that arrived on the Balkan were R1b-L23 and J2b-L283, R1a wasn't present.

[Bart0s]

So how come South Slavs have no J2b2-L283 or R1b-Z2103 associated with Illyrians but only E-V13 ?

[Bart0s]

Proto Illyrians were R1b and J2b L-283. The main Haplogroups among Illyrians were E-V13 + R1b-L23 + J2b L-283 the holy Albanian Trinity.

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Proto-Illyrians were R1b-Z2103 this is also the R1b we see in Vucedol, Maros, Northern Macedonia Iron Age and Albania Iron Age and even among the Iapygians. J2b2-L283 along the adriatic seems to be a founder effect from few Illyrian tribes. I'd be interested to see what Illyrian tribes in Bosnia / Herzegovina and Western/Central Serbia turn out or what proto-Illyrian cultures like Bela Crkva and more Vucedol Bronze Age samples and Iron Age Glasinac Mati.

R-L2 found in Northern Croatia from Late Bronze Age represents proto-Italic invaders and not Illyrians. It's an Italic marker. And most likely Proto-Venetic / Histrians / Liburnians , the latters origins are disputed. Slovenia wasn't compact Illyrian territory but a mixed area.