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    Quote Originally Posted by Argentano View Post
    quite high SSA for a latino

    Yes which doesn't match my genotype at all lol.. I wonder how valid/ accurate 23andme genome chips are XD
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    Some have significant native american and dont show it (ie: #7) and the opposite situatiio (ie: #1, I would have guessed her as a castiza and shes full euro).

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    Not sure what each colours means regarding genetics components.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlito's Way View Post
    she looks very Amerindian influence, I would have guessed her to be a harniza and from Mexico or something, in fact, my Guatemalan aunt has someone in her family who looks just like her
    this is her, they are both Guatemalan
    That's why her admix results seem like a sham unless that really isn't a pic of her but her native american dna is only 10 percent which is lower than the average puerto rican in fact. She does look very central american overall

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latinus View Post
    Not sure what each colours means regarding genetics components.
    Quote Originally Posted by Argentano View Post
    You have the color/ancestry in the map below


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    Edited.

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    The woman on the top left is fully European but looks just as 'mixed' as those with considerable Amerindian DNA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tekken999 View Post
    That's why her admix results seem like a sham unless that really isn't a pic of her but her native american dna is only 10 percent which is lower than the average puerto rican in fact. She does look very central american overall
    But as I saw, it's not impossible to find bi-racial (Euro/Amerindian) boricuas by phenotype (without clear SSA traits).
    Do you think that they are rare or atypical?
    Examples:

    Olga Tañón


    Chayanne


    Claribel Medina (she is an actress who is not probably very known in PR because she made most of her career in Argentina. Indeed she fits very well here)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erronkari View Post
    But as I saw, it's not impossible to find bi-racial (Euro/Amerindian) boricuas by phenotype (without clear SSA traits).
    Do you think that they are rare or atypical?
    Examples:

    Olga Tañón


    Chayanne


    Claribel Medina (she is an actress who is not probably very known in PR because she made most of her career in Argentina. Indeed she fits very well here)
    It's difficult for me to say their genetic amerindian dna has influenced their phenotype to the point that it makes a difference. Perhaps, perhaps not. I only say because the amerindian dna is very low in puerto ricans, usually average is 15% amerindian dna which is from the taino tribe. It seems also that amerindian dna shows less in phenotypes than african dna for example in latinos so it's sometimes harder to tell someone that has amerindian dna unless it's pretty high like 30% and more. It could be that amerindian does influence the phenotype of many puerto ricans, however I believe that most of the phenotypes in puerto ricans comes from the Canarian people themselves and much more than african or Amerindian dna.

    Canarian migration was very very influential on the impact of the island, both genetically and culturally. A bunch came over to Puerto Rico during the 1800s it seems. However there seems to be different parts of the the canary islands that have more european dna in some places, and more north african in other places which come from the Guanches who were north african berbers of course. La gomera in particular seems to have a large population that in my opinion resembles puerto ricans in appearance, I don't know which parts of the canary islands that contributed to the migration to Puerto Rico but I think la Gomera would be a good candidate if had to guess. That's the reason why too that I see some puerto ricans who look middle eastern or north african rather than mulatto like in the case of the Dominican Republic which has more african DNA on average and the average Dominican looks like a typical mulatto to me compared to puerto rican who look more north african/berber in appearance.

    Here some examples of people from La gomera that I think resemble Puerto Ricans very well




    This comedian from las islas canarias(not sure if he's from la gomera) look sumamente puerto rican, I see many puerto ricans with his face


    I have a cousin that looks like the guy on the far left.





    i can go on but that's probably enough examples haha, however I do want to say that many of these canarians are not representative of the canarians population as a whole, as there are many that look like typical spaniards but I think it depends which islands we are talking about since studies show that some islands like gomera have a greater amount of berber/guanche dna than others.

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    Oh sure my friend.
    Of course that I do totally agree that it's extremely difficult to find boricuas who are not predominantly Euro, may be with some few exceptions.
    Those individuals are clearly predominantly Euro by far.
    Olga Tañon is a castiza or harniza castiza, Chayanne an harnizo and Claribel Medina looks almost full Euro.
    But what I pointed is that in my opinion it's possible to find individuals in PR who don't show SSA traits. Some of them indeed look 100% Euro like our mate BirdMan.
    In my opinion it's the whitest caribbean island (may be with the exception of Saint Barthelemy, but I am not sure).
    Cuba for example is not more euro influenced if we consider the % of the whole inhabitants, first because SSA contribution there is much bigger than in PR, and the population is more segregated.
    May be it's possible to find more almost Euro individuals but there are a lot of more hardly SSA influenced people than in PR.
    So in my opinion generally talking PR is mote Euro.
    The same said our mate Billy.
    And yes, PR is in the group of latinamerican countries with less SSA influence: PR (12/15%), RD (8/9%), Brazil (9/11%), Cuba (7/8%) and Uruguay (10/11%).
    The rest of the countries have substantially more amerindian % in the gene-pool.

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