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    There is no such thing as a European language or unified culture so by identifying as European it doesn't really mean anything. If you said you was German or French it would have more meaning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonewolfcypriot View Post
    There is no such thing as a European language
    Omnia dicta fortiora si dicta Latina!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MS85 View Post
    It is from a study called: "Ancient human genomes suggest three ancestral populations for present-day Europeans". Direct link: https://reich.hms.harvard.edu/sites/...stries_1_1.pdf



    more interesting articles:

    Massive migration from the steppe was a source for Indo-European languages in Europe
    https://reich.hms.harvard.edu/sites/...ure14317_0.pdf

    Genome-wide patterns of selection in 230 ancient Eurasians
    https://reich.hms.harvard.edu/sites/...atenated_1.pdf

    Genomic insights into the origin of farming in the ancient Near East
    https://reich.hms.harvard.edu/sites/..._article_0.pdf
    Thanks, very interesting links!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonewolfcypriot View Post
    There is no such thing as a European language or unified culture so by identifying as European it doesn't really mean anything. If you said you was German or French it would have more meaning.
    Once upon a time what you said would have been taken as common sense, but nowadays depending on which circle you move around in I am not so sure it would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Once upon a time what you said would have been taken as common sense, but nowadays depending on which circle you move around in I am not so sure it would.
    There is an emerging class/culture of metropolitan European leftists who proudly display the EU flag and despise nationalism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoda View Post
    There is an emerging class/culture of metropolitan European leftists who proudly display the EU flag and despise nationalism.
    Who says it is only Leftists who think like that necessarily? Plenty of libertarian types on the Right regard the nation state as an impediment to a global free market, and like the EU precisely because it provides multinational companies with free and equal access to 28 different nations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Who says it is only Leftists who think like that necessarily? Plenty of libertarian types on the Right regard the nation state as an impediment to a global free market, and like the EU precisely because it provides multinational companies with free and equal access to 28 different nations.
    Call them what you want, I consider those people leftists anyway for the devotion to liberalism above all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoda View Post
    Call them what you want, I consider those people leftists anyway for the devotion to liberalism above all.
    Oh please. People who support the privatisation and marketisation of almost everything under the sun are not in any way, shape or form Leftists, regardless of what they may think of abortion or gays.

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    true, its a geographical expression, if you are from Europe you are European, but to say its a common culture, no its not, even in same nation regional differences are often cultural differences, then as we get more wide, i find different amount of kinship to other nations.

    ... and its not even based on geographical proximity, even tho Greeks and Italians are closer to us then Russians, i find more kinship to Russians

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