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    Quote Originally Posted by Universe View Post
    I'm talking about people in general, not myself (Just like the OP).
    Same I mean, your skin can be white, you can look European but if your dads African, you are African. Ethnicity can be wiped out by recombination and by cultural change, men are always the sons of their fathers, it's pretty much absolute. Not saying that you have to go back to caveman times to determine who you are. But for examples Scandinavians were called such and such son of such and such, your fathers lineage determines your status. If your dad is Irish and your mom is Hawaiian you don't adopt your moms culture, you adopt your fathers culture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean View Post
    Same I mean, your skin can be white, you can look European but if your dads African, you are African. Ethnicity can be wiped out by recombination and by cultural change, men are always the sons of their fathers, it's pretty much absolute. Not saying that you have to go back to caveman times to determine who you are. But for examples Scandinavians were called such and such son of such and such, your fathers lineage determines your status. If your dad is Irish and your mom is Hawaiian you don't adopt your moms culture, you adopt your fathers culture.
    Most Europeans are sadly Kazakh paternally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayetooey View Post
    Most Europeans are sadly Kazakh paternally.
    Not all men are created equal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayetooey View Post
    Most Europeans are sadly Kazakh paternally.
    These days I watched one Serb on youtube who say that R1a and R1b were originally proto-Turkic speakers. He say IE languages are originally of I people, and R1a/R1b invaders when arrived in Europe commited genocide on I people and took their women. Children born from R1 men and native women learned language from mothers and on that way R1 in Europe lost Turkic and started to speak IE language.
    R1* exist among Amerindians around Great Lakes. R is cousin of mongoloid-amerindian Q. The oldest R1a is founded in Altay and R1b in central Asia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    These days I watched one Serb on youtube who say that R1a and R1b were originally proto-Turkic speakers. He say IE languages are originally of I people, and R1a/R1b invaders when arrived in Europe commited genocide on I people and took their women. Children born from R1 men and native women learned language from mothers and on that way R1 in Europe lost Turkic and started to speak IE language.
    R1* exist among Amerindians around Great Lakes. R is cousin of mongoloid-amerindian Q. The oldest R1a is founded in Altay and R1b in central Asia.
    Yes, R/Q both came from haplogroup P which split off; same with how I and J both come from parent haplogroup IJ. R1 is very high in Turkic peoples. Tajiks are 64% R1a.

    Indigenous peoples in east Siberia, like the Kamchatkans also have fair amounts of R1a.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayetooey View Post
    Yes, R/Q both came from haplogroup P which split off; same with how I and J both come from parent haplogroup IJ. R1 is very high in Turkic peoples. Tajiks are 64% R1a.

    Indigenous peoples in east Siberia, like the Kamchatkans also have fair amounts of R1a.
    R1a is still much higher in south asia. it can get up to 70% and it's the main haplogoup of the region. R1a is much lower in central asia where the main haplogoup is C.
    R1a along with J2 are the main haplos in Iran as well. tajiks are not central asians genetically. they're mostly persians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Majority ancestry obviously.

    +1 (absolutely).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seya View Post
    R1a is still much higher in south asia. it can get up to 70% and it's the main haplogoup of the region. R1a is much lower in central asia where the main haplogoup is C.
    R1a along with J2 are the main haplos in Iran as well. tajiks are not central asians genetically. they're mostly persians.
    R1a is over 60% among Kyrgyz people https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyrgyz_people#Genetics

    R1a in Iran is about 16%, and in India is about 10%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seya View Post
    R1a is still much higher in south asia. it can get up to 70% and it's the main haplogoup of the region. R1a is much lower in central asia where the main haplogoup is C.
    R1a along with J2 are the main haplos in Iran as well. tajiks are not central asians genetically. they're mostly persians.
    The out of India theory is pretty dead though; there was a paper coming out of Mumbai which apparently gave new evidence to the contrary, but we know so far oldest R1 comes from central Asia. High frequency doesn't always=place of origin, look at I2a1b which is 71% in parts of Herzegovina but has Ukrainian origin where its only 20%.

    R1 is high in Turkic/central Asian peoples and in far east native Siberians (who are ancestral to native Americans), Kyrgyz people are also over 60% R1a.

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    Paternal line. Remember hitler was E1b.

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