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    Quote Originally Posted by Argentano View Post
    HERE PUERTO RICAN ANALYSIS. After those ranges then SSA goes up

    Very interesting!!
    In the case of PR amerindian is higher than SSA in all cases!! So that proves what I said many times that PR is the least SSA influenced island in the spanish caribbean!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argentano View Post
    Creo que en ambos países el nativo americano es más alto que eso en Cuba seguro porque hay un montón de blancos con nativo americano Y pardos también y en Brasil pensá que hay regiones donde directamente salen más nativo americano que africano

    Hace poco agregue unos kits de Germán de gente de maranhao y salían todos más nativos americanos q africanos Más allá de que eran triraciales
    En Brasil la genética indígena solo es mayor que la afro en ciertos estados amazónicos: Amazonas, Pará, Amapá, Rondonia, Acre; e imagino que estarán a la par en estados colindantes Maranhao, Piauí o Tocantins.

    Pero es que demográficamente, sobre el total de la población de Brasil, es una nimiedad

    La región Norte (amazónica) apenas tiene 18 millones de habitantes sobre un total de 208 en todo Brasil. Un 8,5% de la población total.

    En todas las demás regiones la ancestría amerindia no llega al 10%, y las que llegan (según los distintos estudios) lo hacen por muy poquito.

    Si es que hasta me lo pone en el artículo en que voy a revisar la población de dicha región:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regions_of_Brazil

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    Argento, dado que Brasil tiene estudios muy amplios y detallados, puedes coger las muestras de la zona del Nordeste de Brasil (de Bahía a Fortaleza) de alguno o de varios estudios, y como allí si hay en relativa abundancia los tres elementos: europeo, negro y amerindio, pero con apenas elementos puros de estos tres elementos, y se podrá ver de manera muy clara como a mayor ancestría europea - mayor ancestría amerindia, y como a mayor ancestría negra - menor ancestría amerindia también.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argentano View Post
    Hay un cubano que es mestizo, y con africano residual. Increíble.

    De hecho puede que tenga más amerindio que europeo.

    Debe ser un tipo muy raro, o con algún antepasado americano de fuera de la isla.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duffmannn View Post
    En Brasil la genética indígena solo es mayor que la afro en ciertos estados amazónicos: Amazonas, Pará, Amapá, Rondonia, Acre; e imagino que estarán a la par en estados colindantes Maranhao, Piauí o Tocantins.

    Pero es que demográficamente, sobre el total de la población de Brasil, es una nimiedad

    La región Norte (amazónica) apenas tiene 18 millones de habitantes sobre un total de 208 en todo Brasil. Un 8,5% de la población total.

    En todas las demás regiones la ancestría amerindia no llega al 10%, y las que llegan (según los distintos estudios) lo hacen por muy poquito.

    Si es que hasta me lo pone en el artículo en que voy a revisar la población de dicha región:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regions_of_Brazil
    En Ceara creo que el indigena tiene un cierto % importante tambien pero casualmente es uno de los Estados con menos africano y el porcentaje caucasico es muy importante, practicamente todos los estudios dan por encima del 60%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erronkari View Post
    Very interesting!!
    In the case of PR amerindian is higher than SSA in all cases!! So that proves what I said many times that PR is the least SSA influenced island in the spanish caribbean!!
    I think this is the case. I still believe that Cuba is more European overall, but that is due to the fact that their Native ancestry is much lower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BirdMan View Post
    I think this is the case. I still believe that Cuba is more European overall, but that is due to the fact that their Native ancestry is much lower.
    May be, my friend.
    But Cuba is more segregated, because I think that you can find more extremes among cubans, while boricuas seem to be more homogeneous by far.
    May be in PR it's more difficult to find full Euro individuals (like you) than in Cuba, but it seems that it's more difficult by far to find predominantly african descendants in PR than in Cuba too.
    Cuba seems to be quite segregated and the other point is that Western Cuba and Eastern Cuba are very disctint.
    Eastern Cuba indeed is quite similar to RD racially talking on average, especially Granma and Guantanamo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BirdMan View Post
    I think this is the case. I still believe that Cuba is more European overall, but that is due to the fact that their Native ancestry is much lower.
    Is your family recent migrants to Puerto Rico?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erronkari View Post
    May be, my friend.
    But Cuba is more segregated, because I think that you can find more extremes among cubans, while boricuas seem to be more homogeneous by far.
    May be in PR it's more difficult to find full Euro individuals (like you) than in Cuba, but it seems that it's more difficult by far to find predominantly african descendants in PR than in Cuba too.
    Cuba seems to be quite segregated and the other point is that Western Cuba and Eastern Cuba are very disctint.
    Eastern Cuba indeed is quite similar to RD racially talking on average, especially Granma and Guantanamo.

    Granma is very mixed but it isnt blackest province in Cuba. It is more similar to blackest areas from Puerto Rico. Blackest provinces in Cuba are Santiago de Cuba, Guantanamo and La Habana city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by perikolez View Post
    Granma is very mixed but it isnt blackest province in Cuba. It is more similar to blackest areas from Puerto Rico. Blackest provinces in Cuba are Santiago de Cuba, Guantanamo and La Habana city.
    In the majority of Cuban regions being over 70% SSA is very rare

    this is from a genetic study

    https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/p...55/preview.jpg

    BOXPLOTS, AFRICAN ANCESTRY PER REGION (bOXPLOTS = 25%+25%+25%+25%)



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