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    Quote Originally Posted by billErobreren View Post
    Much obliged. Though the Irish are known for being the most family-oriented of Northern Europe. Ireland's numbers have gone down if anything. Which is still tragic but I can always count on that being a high priority for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billErobreren View Post
    Much obliged. Though the Irish are known for being the most family-oriented of Northern Europe. Ireland's numbers have gone down if anything. Which is still tragic but I can always count on that being a high priority for them.
    The Irish-American numbers have gone down even further. My mom had 8 siblings. Not that uncommon for Irish-Catholics in American in the mid-20th century. Good luck finding that now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daco Celtic View Post
    The Irish-American numbers have gone down even further. My mom had 8 siblings. Not that uncommon for Irish-Catholics in American in the mid-20th century. Good luck finding that now.
    Exactly, my mother had 11 siblings herself. My own grandmother was one of 16.
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    In 2007, Patriarch Ilia II of the Georgian Orthodox Church made a decision: facing a country with a declining population, low birth rates, and high abortion rates, the church leader announced that he would personally baptize and become godfather to any third-or-high Orthodox child born to a married couple in Georgia and formally registered with the government. Georgia is almost 90% Georgian Orthodox, Patriarch Ilia II is widely trusted and respected, and Georgians are the most likely of any Orthodox-majority country to say their religion is about personal faith. In other words, Georgia is an ideal test-case to see if national leaders can use social or cultural capital to effect targeted social changes. Since the first mass-baptisms in late 2007, Ilia has baptized over 30,000 babies, about 5.8% of the total births in Georgia over that time, or about 34.5% of the third-or-higher births, so his baptisms are of a demographically-significant scale.



    Before Patriarch Ilia’s policy, Georgia had below-replacement-rate fertility: they weren’t having enough kids to keep the population stable. After the mass baptisms began, the fertility rate rocketed to above-replacement levels and has stayed there for nearly a decade, suggesting that there is likely to be a discernible impact on completed fertility as well.

    Fertility changes of this magnitude are not extremely common; many governments would kill for the ability to engineer this kind of policy. But Georgia’s case is unique: comparatively homogenous societies where one highly-respected religious leader has the social capital to induce these kinds of changes are extremely rare. The United States has never had that kind of social homogeneity, nor will it ever.

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    The only population that is 'booming' here are Gypsies. Who needs migrants and refugees anyway when you're getting replaced from within...

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    what I know, is that Ukrainians get these money for children from polish 500+ program (500 pln for every children, condition: 2 and more)
    so not only Poland benefits
    https://leewadia.wordpress.com/2018/02/05/500/
    https://spidersweb.pl/ukraina/%D1%8F...be/UawaYRSgxdU

    and I wonder how is it count? that baby boom in Poland, Poles only or all living here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sundqvist View Post
    what I know, is that Ukrainians get these money for children from polish 500+ program (500 pln for every children, condition: 2 and more)
    so not only Poland benefits
    https://leewadia.wordpress.com/2018/02/05/500/
    https://spidersweb.pl/ukraina/%D1%8F...be/UawaYRSgxdU

    and I wonder how is it count? that baby boom in Poland, Poles only or all living here?
    When I visit children playground in my district in Torun (PL) with my daughter, I often met Ukrainian mother with their three children there. She talks to them in Polish so I realised she is Ukrainian only when she spoke with someone by phone in Ukrainian... Apparently she's got 500+ three times on them. But children will be Poles probably or they are now.

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    Poland, AND Russia will be East Europes best hope. While Ireland, West Europes best hope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverKnight View Post
    Poland, AND Russia will be East Europes best hope. While Ireland, West Europes best hope.
    Nah, mate. Eastern Europe is not immune to this inescapable demographic change. Both western and eastern (European/white/insert label here, whatever) women don't want to have children. There will be no mixing going on either. The minorities will become the majorities in 100 years in both the west and east.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daco Celtic View Post
    The Irish-American numbers have gone down even further. My mom had 8 siblings. Not that uncommon for Irish-Catholics in American in the mid-20th century. Good luck finding that now.
    My families average is still 4-5 on both sides, I got 4 brothers, my dad has three and a sister, my mom has 3 siblings, her mom has about 6, her dad has 3. 5 is like 10 kids for a protestant
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