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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvinski View Post
    But according to SNP Tracker my Y-DNA (of course not DF27 as a whole, but my exact subclade) came from Gallia (France) in Roman times:

    http://scaledinnovation.com/gg/snpTracker.html



    ^^^ Roman legions or Celtic refugees?: http://archaeologyinbulgaria.com/201...kujawy-region/
    Lukaz could be right, polish immigration was quite massive in nord pas de Calais to work in coal mines during the 20th century and most of them are 100% assimilated today, I have a few friends with polish ancestry myself. But you could also be right, maybe its a combination of both circumstances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukasz View Post
    I guess because of submerged Polish emigration to NE France (pre 1939 mainly). Now they are assimilated and treated as part of reference of that region by 23&me.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poles_in_France


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    1,000,000 (2009) - 2% of the French population

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    Île-de-France, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, Alsace, Lorraine, Centre-Val de Loire...
    Exactly, most Poles worked in the steel industry of Lorraine, and then settled pretty much exclusively in NE France.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phenix View Post
    Exactly, most Poles worked in the steel industry of Lorraine, and then settled pretty much exclusively in NE France.
    So it is agreement that if Pole got NE France in 23&me it is caued by common Polish heritage there.

    I'm interested now if some supposed 100% Frenchmen (ideally not from NE France) got Polish regions, because it would be contradiction to above... Any one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukasz View Post
    So it is agreement that if Pole got NE France in 23&me it is caued by common Polish heritage there.
    By this logic all of Germany also has Polish heritage because of: 1) old Polish immigration, 2) Polish Germans coming after 1945, 3) new Polish immigration. I even have a cousin who now lives in Lower Saxony. And I scored Lower Saxony on 23andMe. So I scored Lower Saxony because I have Polish cousins there?

    Do you really think that 23andMe is using Ruhrpolen and French Poles as references?

    This data shows how many Ruhrpolen lived in West Germany already before WW1:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvinski View Post
    By this logic all of Germany also has Polish heritage because of: 1) old Polish immigration, 2) Polish Germans coming after 1945, 3) new Polish immigration. I even have a cousin who now lives in Lower Saxony. And I scored Lower Saxony on 23andMe. So I scored Lower Saxony because I have Polish cousins there?

    Do you really think that 23andMe is using Ruhrpolen and French Poles as references?

    This data shows how many Ruhrpolen lived in West Germany already before WW1:
    I think yes, because those French Poles were assimilated before WWII. I guess most of their descendants don't have Polish surnames even. So nobody in 23&me would know they have Polish heritage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukasz View Post
    So it is agreement that if Pole got NE France in 23&me it is caued by common Polish heritage there.

    I'm interested now if some supposed 100% Frenchmen (ideally not from NE France) got Polish regions, because it would be contradiction to above... Any one?
    I have seen this schema in MENA regions where Arabs in North Africa still score fairly high ME results, even if NA Arabs are part of NA reference samples; while the opposite is almost impossible to happen. Brits with Scandinavian match are also a good parallel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukasz View Post
    I think yes, because those French Poles were assimilated before WWII. I guess most of their descendants don't have Polish surnames even. So nobody in 23&me would know they have Polish heritage.
    Serious accusation? You basically claim they are idiots.
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    wow they have done an upgrade to 23andme since i logged in last.

    France is my #2 thingy but they got no idea why...even my greece bits are narrowed down to the southern tip...which im pretty sure makes me 100% niggro!!!

    Wooooo!!



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