Which Germanic grouping is the best?

[Peterski]

East Germanic because they got assimilated by Poles, a good choice (on the other hand Swedes have chosen to get assimilated by Somalis etc.).

[Caradog]

I can't associate these groups with modern Celto-Germanic nations like the English, Dutch and Germans, but I suppose as of now the Ingvaeones have had the most influence through their descendants, Istvaeones and Irminones had more influence in the Middle Ages.

Germans and Dutch are still heavily Germanic, however the English are not (and have never been for that matter), they are of a similar stock from the Irish, Scottish and Welsh.

[Gwydion]

Germans and Dutch are still heavily Germanic, however the English are not (and have never been for that matter), they are of a similar stock from the Irish, Scottish and Welsh.

While true that the English descend in part from the same R1b-L21 Bell Beaker and later Celtic stock as the other British Islanders, isn't it the case that according to most studies the southern and eastern English range from 20-50% "Anglo-Saxon" or Germanic and also have large percentages of Germanic Y-DNA, mostly R1b-U106? This would seem to lend a strong Germanic component to many English, or as much as a good portion of Germany which descends from R1b-U152, etc. Hallstatt Celts.

I don't have the source on hand, but during the Viking period there was a sense shared by both the Danes/Norse and English that they derived from common stock.

[Elwy]

Prussia stronk

[Blondie]

While true that the English descend in part from the same R1b-L21 Bell Beaker and later Celtic stock as the other British Islanders, isn't it the case that according to most studies the southern and eastern English range from 20-50% "Anglo-Saxon" or Germanic and also have large percentages of Germanic Y-DNA, mostly R1b-U106? This would seem to lend a strong Germanic component to many English, or as much as a good portion of Germany which descends from R1b-U152, etc. Hallstatt Celts.

I don't have the source on hand, but during the Viking period there was a sense shared by both the Danes/Norse and English that they derived from common stock.

The english genetic is mostly germanic not celtic:

[Gwydion]

Prussia stronk

So Ingaevones then? Since I believe most of Prussia east of the Oder was settled by Low German/Low Saxon speakers, i.e. Ingaevones:



Ingaevonic power?

[Kyp]