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    Just got these results...Kind of suprised by how much West and Central Europe they gave me.

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    Nice results. Is the Scandinavian unexpected?

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    Nice result. NW EU mutt basically.


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    Quote Originally Posted by farke1 View Post
    Nice results. Is the Scandinavian unexpected?
    Thanks!

    That much is. I don’t have any known recent Scandinavian ancestry. It’d be pretty far back. Myheritage gives me about
    10% and 23andme gave me 3.6% initially but after the beta update I have 1.2%. Ancestry gave my sister something like 46% Scandinavian which is why I decided to do 23andme. I didn’t see how that could be accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wisteria View Post
    Thanks!

    That much is. I don’t have any known recent Scandinavian ancestry. It’d be pretty far back. Myheritage gives me about
    10% and 23andme gave me 3.6% initially but after the beta update I have 1.2%. Ancestry gave my sister something like 46% Scandinavian which is why I decided to do 23andme. I didn’t see how that could be accurate.
    NW coastal europeans get british and brits get scandinavian etc. Tests aren't good enough yet to properly divide them, it's normal.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wisteria View Post
    That much is. I don’t have any known recent Scandinavian ancestry. It’d be pretty far back. Myheritage gives me about
    10% and 23andme gave me 3.6% initially but after the beta update I have 1.2%. Ancestry gave my sister something like 46% Scandinavian which is why I decided to do 23andme. I didn’t see how that could be accurate.
    That's quite a large difference between you and your sister. Was that before last year's update? I found my Scandinavian got overestimated before and now gets underestimated slightly, although it's much better than it was. Also Matxe92 is essentially correct that it's normal for people from the British Isles to get trace amounts of Scandinavian but 18% is much higher than is typical. I wondered if it is your Manx ancestry which is inflating it slightly, as the Scandinavians settled in the Isle of Man and the population has remained very homogeneous ever since; but it could just be the calculator being weird I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by farke1 View Post
    That's quite a large difference between you and your sister. Was that before last year's update? I found my Scandinavian got overestimated before and now gets underestimated slightly, although it's much better than it was.
    It was last summer when she sent me a picture of her results, maybe July. I just text her and asked her, but she hasn’t got back to me yet. I suspect she hasnt looked at it in a while. Maybe I can convince her to upload her raw data to gedmatch.
    Also Matxe92 is essentially correct that it's normal for people from the British Isles to get trace amounts of Scandinavian but 18% is much higher than is typical. I wondered if it is your Manx ancestry which is inflating it slightly, as the Scandinavians settled in the Isle of Man and the population has remained very homogeneous ever since; but it could just be the calculator being weird I suppose.
    Yeah, I expect to get some maybe. It was my 3rd great grandfather that was Manx, so I’m not sure if he could have that much influence. But I did wonder that too. I’d love to see some 100% Manx results. I’ve yet to find any.

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    Ftdna, MyHeritage, and Ancestrydna absolutely sucked for me. 23andme was the only company to be even close to accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by farke1 View Post
    Also Matxe92 is essentially correct that it's normal for people from the British Isles to get trace amounts of Scandinavian but 18% is much higher than is typical.
    You sure? 18% doesn't sound crazy to me, atleast from a danish perspective, cause many of my danish matches get 10-50% English.
    I guess the tests lean more towards calling actual scandinavian/NW coast heritage for "english" rather than the other way around, so that the inaccuracy is worse for coastal europeans versus brits. (Hope u understand what i mean)


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    Quote Originally Posted by wisteria View Post
    It was last summer when she sent me a picture of her results, maybe July. I just text her and asked her, but she hasn’t got back to me yet. I suspect she hasnt looked at it in a while. Maybe I can convince her to upload her raw data to gedmatch.
    That'd be interesting to see, indeed. Afaik the last major Ancestry update was in September, so she was probably still on the old genotyping chip - I had close to 40% Scandinavian on that one too. If she does upload her data to GEDMatch it'd be interesting to see a comparison between the two kits, and your K36 map.


    Quote Originally Posted by wisteria View Post
    Yeah, I expect to get some maybe. It was my 3rd great grandfather that was Manx, so I’m not sure if he could have that much influence. But I did wonder that too. I’d love to see some 100% Manx results. I’ve yet to find any.
    True, I think that's too far back - on average only about 3% of a 3x great grandparent's autosomal DNA would show on these tests. Could also possibly be the German getting mislabelled too, I suppose. I'd also like to see more Manx results as I think it's a very understudied and highly diverse region considering its size. The Manx Y-DNA project is quite interesting though; a high number of these haplogroups indicate a possible Scandinavian origin. I'm sure it's only a matter of time until companies like Ancestry or 23andme are able to include it as a standalone region/genetic community.


    Quote Originally Posted by nittionia View Post
    Ftdna, MyHeritage, and Ancestrydna absolutely sucked for me. 23andme was the only company to be even close to accurate.
    I agree that FTDNA and MyHeritage (aka the "everyone gets Finnish and/or Sardinian regardless of their origin" test) are garbage, but Ancestry is generally pretty good for most people. Did you try Ancestry before or after the last update? I think it's improved a lot over the past year.

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