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    Quote Originally Posted by Cumansky View Post
    Not many in Belarus are PH908, that is pre Yugoslavia marker to my knowledge
    It's probably Thracian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayetooey View Post
    I have a ethnic Pole from Belarus as a Y dna match; he say's his ancestor was documented as being a Serb from Kosovo who fled north. This guy has Serb Y dna matches only; he is ph908.
    Nice. I have a Polish match from Silesia but he's I1. 23/25 marker match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayetooey View Post
    It's probably Thracian.
    Vlachs are extension of Dacians (Thracian subrace north of Danube in modern Romania that resisted Roman Empire) PH908 have same origin us as but almost 2 millenias of separated history within Roman Empire.

    Our genetic changed we incorporated Turkic tribes Jasz, Cumans, Huns, Pechenegs, etc in Romania. Your people incorporated some of the same tribes but much more Mediterraneans in Yugoslavia. That is why we are little bit different now.

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    it looked like this!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cumansky View Post
    Vlachs are extension of Dacians (Thracian subrace north of Danube in modern Romania that resisted Roman Empire) PH908 have same origin us as but almost 2 millenias of separated history within Roman Empire.

    Our genetic changed we incorporated Turkic tribes Jasz, Cumans, Huns, Pechenegs, etc in Romania. Your people incorporated some of the same tribes but much more Mediterraneans in Yugoslavia. That is why we are little bit different now.
    Ph908 in Serbs probably comes from the Thracian tribe known as the Triballi. Triballian" was synonym to "Serbian"in the early middle ages. We are all brothers with ancient roots
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triballi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayetooey View Post
    Ph908 in Serbs probably comes from the Thracian tribe known as the Triballi. Triballian" was synonym to "Serbian"in the early middle ages. We are all brothers with ancient roots
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triballi
    Yes ancient brat from time

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    Quote Originally Posted by jingorex View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayetooey View Post
    Ph908 in Serbs probably comes from the Thracian tribe known as the Triballi. Triballian" was synonym to "Serbian"in the early middle ages. We are all brothers with ancient roots
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triballi
    That’s improbable. Almost all I2a1b-Din falls under Y3120 which descends from ONE man that lived around 200BC.

    PH908 all descends from ONE man 200AD. There were no more Thracians at this point really. Almost entirely romanized.

    One would have quite the task of contradiction and manipulation to explain how one man in 200BC could have possibly had all his sons sprouting from him be part of so many ancient cultures that proceeded even his self.

    Regardless of what it was, the only surviving descendant was likely already Proto Slavic and his descendants boomed during the migration.

    This is evident in all clades, paleo Balkan and otherwise that have Slavic clusters, uniform TMRCAs etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnusDark View Post
    That’s improbable. Almost all I2a1b-Din falls under Y3120 which descends from ONE man that lived around 200BC.

    PH908 all descends from ONE man 200AD. There were no more Thracians at this point really. Almost entirely romanized.

    One would have quite the task of contradiction and manipulation to explain how one man in 200BC could have possibly had all his sons sprouting from him be part of so many ancient cultures that proceeded even his self.

    Regardless of what it was, the only surviving descendant was likely already Proto Slavic and his descendants boomed during the migration.

    This is evident in all clades, paleo Balkan and otherwise that have Slavic clusters, uniform TMRCAs etc.
    Very interesting, Ok I give you a chance, in one sentence sum up your statement.

    All I heard "blahblahblah, half truth, 150 words Albanian fear tactics"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cumansky View Post
    Very interesting, Ok I give you a chance, in one sentence sum up your statement.

    All I heard "blahblahblah, half truth, 150 words Albanian fear tactics"
    Albanian fear tactics? Lol ok there ya door knob.

    All I2a1b men alive came from one man. Nearly 100 percent of his descendants are Slavic. It’s a Slavic line. One man. Not a group of men. But one man. Same for R1a clades associated with expansion including other haplos.

    You also don’t know anything about genetics so don’t comment. I’m only amateur in this discipline, and this is the consensus amongst far more learned men.

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